Ram Eco-Diesel vs F150 2.7 TT - Davis Dam

Just to clear up this I called the dealer and was told the oil filter cost $60.00 and the oil (Pennzoil 5w30) cost $9.20 X 11 = $101.20 for a total of $161.20. The Ford dealerships as doing full Syn oil changes for $49.95. So win for Ford.

Don

Debate over something as insignificant as the price of an oil change is hilarious. After spending $40-50k for the truck you want, you're going to piss & moan over an extra 50 buck expenditure a couple of times a year?!?! Just another example of the inexplicable lightning rod for criticism the ed has become. Actually, the comparison is moot since mama Chrysler is picking up the tab until the 50000 mile service.

FishOnOne wrote:

Sincerely,
The No Spin Zone

This place is quickly becoming BS central.

womps wrote:
Owners of the Grand Cherokee are reporting $125. to $200. and everywhere in between for an oil change. I would guess the Ram would require similar cash for its oil changes. I checked with a couple of quick lube businesses in my area and they don't carry the euro spec oil so I will probably get hosed at the Jeep dealer when it is time for my GC Ecodiesel service

Thanks for posting womps... We've been looking at some Grand Cherokee's and kicking the tire on a 3.0 ED as well.

Bionic Man wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
He's probably getting his oil change pricing from a dealer - the same place that would quote you over $100 to do an oil change for a 6.7 regardless of brand.

Do you pay over $100/oil change on your truck fish?

This thread is the Eco Diesel and the 2.7 Eco Boost so no I won't change the topic Bionic Man.

Just trying to understand the rules of engagement here fish. It's ok for you to bring up the cost of oil changes as a differentiating factor, but when you are called on it that is changing the topic.

Crystal clear there thanks to the no spin zone.

Bionic Man,
How about applying some common sense and you'll be good. :R

BTW... My last oil change cost for my Ford 6.7 PSD

Materials purchased at Wal-Mart
Delo 10W30 Synthetic Blend: $63.75
Motorcraft Oil Filter: $17.97
Total: $81.72 :W

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Sorry Fish but the guy that makes the statement as fact, is the guy that should back it up with his so called facts. I did try to get the cost a the filter but could not get it as the dealer was closed and Auto Zone does not even show one yet. But again you are the one saying a oil change for the Eco-diesel will come in at over $100 so prove it big boy!

BTW. here is some "NO SPIN ZONE" for you. That "API SN 5W30" is running $7.12/7.89 a qt so oil cost is $7.12 X 7 = $49.84 that doesn't leave a lot for a filter, grease, washer fluid and anything else that needs topped off now does it Troy? As for your

FishOnOne wrote:
Heck I'm hearing the Eco Diesel oil change is over $100.

comment, I'm thinking this would be at the dealer and not some guy lying on his back in the driveway DYIng it. But again your the "No Spin Zone" guy right troy :W:W:W:W:W:W:W:W:W:W

Don

Don,
Nice try but let me run some basic numbers for you:

Motorcraft Syn Blend Oil on Auto Zone Web Site: $5.69/quart @6.2 quarts = $35.28
Motorcraft Oil Filter FL2055 on Ford Parts web: $13.88

Total Cost DIY: $49.16

Sincerely,
The No Spin Zone

The philosophy of use for these two motors are totally different. Who cares who gets to the top of the hill first.

Btw. On my last 1300 mile trip with out gasser and our TT we would have saved more than the cost of an oil change.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

RCMAN46 wrote:
Rear end gearing should be based more on what the truck is used for. If towing 75% of the time or more then a higher ratio, but if towing is only 10% or less then the lower ratio.

At highway speed towing the rear end ratio does not make as much difference as in the past because of the 6 or greater speed transmissions.

It does not matter if you run in 6th 5th or 4th or even 3rd gear when towing. That is the purpose of a transmission.

We may even see a CVT transmission in the half ton trucks in the future. Then at highway speed towing the rear end ratio has no effect. But for best economy when not towing you would want a very low ratio.

There is a 1000lb tow rating difference between the 3.55 and 3.92 rear ends in the Ram 1500 with the VM Diesel.

Rear end gearing should be based more on what the truck is used for. If towing 75% of the time or more then a higher ratio, but if towing is only 10% or less then the lower ratio.

At highway speed towing the rear end ratio does not make as much difference as in the past because of the 6 or greater speed transmissions.

It does not matter if you run in 6th 5th or 4th or even 3rd gear when towing. That is the purpose of a transmission.

We may even see a CVT transmission in the half ton trucks in the future. Then at highway speed towing the rear end ratio has no effect. But for best economy when not towing you would want a very low ratio.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

mich800 wrote:
I find it amusing everyone dissing Ford for not using the j2807 but dismiss a towing run on the very road used for the test. So which is it, do you care about the standard based on other threads or it doesn't mean anything like the tone on this thread?

Not sure who was doing that, the Ford has more HP then the Ram so it had better out run the ram towing and it did but only by 46 seconds. So if running up the hill faster then the other guy is what you want get the Eco-Boost. If towing and make 14-19 MPG doing it is more important then get the Eco-Diesel. But bottom line get what you want because YOU researched the trucks reading what the owners say about it NOT what the manufactures say. BTW I'll bet you lunch that the Ram didn't have the 3:92 gear ratio in it.

Don

I wasn't really speaking of the "race" but to comments that who cares how how quickly you make it up the hill. The match up was not really fair due to the HP differences so I would not read too much into that. But it does show the ecoboost a capable towing engine that gets lost when feelings get hurt and just dismiss performance up the hill because of who it was compared to. (not speaking of you Don)