Ram Eco-Diesel vs F150 2.7 TT - Davis Dam

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

mich800 wrote:
I find it amusing everyone dissing Ford for not using the j2807 but dismiss a towing run on the very road used for the test. So which is it, do you care about the standard based on other threads or it doesn't mean anything like the tone on this thread?

Not sure who was doing that, the Ford has more HP then the Ram so it had better out run the ram towing and it did but only by 46 seconds. So if running up the hill faster then the other guy is what you want get the Eco-Boost. If towing and make 14-19 MPG doing it is more important then get the Eco-Diesel. But bottom line get what you want because YOU researched the trucks reading what the owners say about it NOT what the manufactures say. BTW I'll bet you lunch that the Ram didn't have the 3:92 gear ratio in it.

Don

I was thinking about that myself. The Ram that I will order, if I go that route, will have 3.92 gears.

mich800 wrote:
I find it amusing everyone dissing Ford for not using the j2807 but dismiss a towing run on the very road used for the test. So which is it, do you care about the standard based on other threads or it doesn't mean anything like the tone on this thread?

Not sure who was doing that, the Ford has more HP then the Ram so it had better out run the ram towing and it did but only by 46 seconds. So if running up the hill faster then the other guy is what you want get the Eco-Boost. If towing and make 14-19 MPG doing it is more important then get the Eco-Diesel. But bottom line get what you want because YOU researched the trucks reading what the owners say about it NOT what the manufactures say. BTW I'll bet you lunch that the Ram didn't have the 3:92 gear ratio in it.

Don

I find it amusing everyone dissing Ford for not using the j2807 but dismiss a towing run on the very road used for the test. So which is it, do you care about the standard based on other threads or it doesn't mean anything like the tone on this thread?

Owners of the Grand Cherokee are reporting $125. to $200. and everywhere in between for an oil change. I would guess the Ram would require similar cash for its oil changes. I checked with a couple of quick lube businesses in my area and they don't carry the euro spec oil so I will probably get hosed at the Jeep dealer when it is time for my GC Ecodiesel service

Sorry Fish but the guy that makes the statement as fact, is the guy that should back it up with his so called facts. I did try to get the cost a the filter but could not get it as the dealer was closed and Auto Zone does not even show one yet. But again you are the one saying a oil change for the Eco-diesel will come in at over $100 so prove it big boy!

BTW. here is some "NO SPIN ZONE" for you. That "API SN 5W30" is running $7.12/7.89 a qt so oil cost is $7.12 X 7 = $49.84 that doesn't leave a lot for a filter, grease, washer fluid and anything else that needs topped off now does it Troy? As for your

FishOnOne wrote:
Heck I'm hearing the Eco Diesel oil change is over $100.

comment, I'm thinking this would be at the dealer and not some guy lying on his back in the driveway DYIng it. But again your the "No Spin Zone" guy right troy :W:W:W:W:W:W:W:W:W:W

Don

FishOnOne wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
He's probably getting his oil change pricing from a dealer - the same place that would quote you over $100 to do an oil change for a 6.7 regardless of brand.

Do you pay over $100/oil change on your truck fish?

This thread is the Eco Diesel and the 2.7 Eco Boost so no I won't change the topic Bionic Man.

Just trying to understand the rules of engagement here fish. It's ok for you to bring up the cost of oil changes as a differentiating factor, but when you are called on it that is changing the topic.

Crystal clear there thanks to the no spin zone.

FishOnOne wrote:

Powerdude wrote:
The Ram EcoDiesel can't really be compared to the 2.7 F150 EcoBoost.

The Ram is a premium engine engineered for consistent fuel economy.

The EcoBoost 2.7 is first of all, not the top level engine, so you can't really compare it to the Ram EcoDiesel 3.0. Different market niches.

The 2.7 EB is clearly engineered for max power on demand, with fuel economy as a secondary, mostly marketing driven made-up selling point.

Why sure they can... Ford is displaying that it's 2.7 EB can out perform the 3.0 ED (VM Motori)in a towing race. If RAM disagrees with this test they're big boys and can produce they're video showing otherwise (I would recommend RAM marketing to leave out some of their so called engineers like in their HD video's).

Some call it Ford advertising and discredit the test and that's fine to take it with a grain of salt, but I've seen enough to conclude the Ford 2.7 EB can simply out tow the 3.0 ED hands down.

Game Over...:W

I am not going to say the ecoboost isn't a fine product, but it is. I am not saying that the VM diesel is better, either. But, in my opinion, if I am spending MSRP $45k for a new truck for my precious family, I don't care how fast it will race up a hill.

Everyone is partial to something on this forum, and people have their ways. It leads to entertaining debates on threads like this.

Powerdude wrote:
The Ram EcoDiesel can't really be compared to the 2.7 F150 EcoBoost.

The Ram is a premium engine engineered for consistent fuel economy.

The EcoBoost 2.7 is first of all, not the top level engine, so you can't really compare it to the Ram EcoDiesel 3.0. Different market niches.

The 2.7 EB is clearly engineered for max power on demand, with fuel economy as a secondary, mostly marketing driven made-up selling point.

Why sure they can... Ford is displaying that it's 2.7 EB can out perform the 3.0 ED (VM Motori)in a towing race. If RAM disagrees with this test they're big boys and can produce they're video showing otherwise (I would recommend RAM marketing to leave out some of their so called engineers like in their HD video's).

Some call it Ford advertising and discredit the test and that's fine to take it with a grain of salt, but I've seen enough to conclude the Ford 2.7 EB can simply out tow the 3.0 ED hands down.

Game Over...:W

transamz9 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

Taco wrote:
Guys. Lets not forget it is a Ford advertisement. Of course the ford is going to be the best.

I don't doubt that the 2.7 ecoboost is a fine engine but I wouldn't draw a single conclusion from a Ford ad claiming it is the best. It may be the best but I wouldn't take Ford's word for it.

Yeah I think it's kind of funny that they stress how the lighter f150 is the main reason it did so well but yet in their HD truck shoot out they sand bagged so the weights would be equal for the test. LOL!

Your statement makes zero sense... LOL :R

Read this. It will make perfect sense.:R

Ford sand bagging.

Here's a copy and paste quote from your link:
Having these two max tow monsters together in one place was special enough, but Ford also had two identically equipped Load Max trailers on hand, each offering just more than 24,000 pounds of weight (seven pallets of cinder blocks) for towing with these two beasts.

Yes it makes perfect sense.... There was a whooopin! :W

You guys keep changing the topic... :R

The Ram EcoDiesel can't really be compared to the 2.7 F150 EcoBoost.

The Ram is a premium engine engineered for consistent fuel economy.

The EcoBoost 2.7 is first of all, not the top level engine, so you can't really compare it to the Ram EcoDiesel 3.0. Different market niches.

The 2.7 EB is clearly engineered for max power on demand, with fuel economy as a secondary, mostly marketing driven made-up selling point.