Forum Discussion

HuckFinn410's avatar
HuckFinn410
Explorer
Jun 17, 2014

Sleeping with rear queen slide “IN”

Greetings RV Earthlings....

I have a rear slide out for our queen bed. It is a unique design (KZ, Outback and a few others have used it over the years). For us, it’s allowed us to tow a smaller trailer, 24ft., yet have it extend to 29ft. when we stop and deploy the rear slide. We have had minimal issue with slide adjustments over the years. It’s worked almost flawlessly…credit to KZ for design and build. Actually, this KZ has been an outstanding trailer.

My question is this.

Has anyone that has one of these slides ever slept in the bed without deploying the slide out? I know that it’s not recommended and I do utilize a homemade 2x4 support brace under the bed to provide stability during transit. I’m thinking of those rare occasions when I just need to sleep a few hours in a Wal-Mart or rest area. No, I don’t boon dock in Wal-Mart parking lots….but once in awhile on the road, it would be nice (and safe) to catch some ZZZZZZ’s after a long day on the road without pulling out the big rear slide out.

Do you sleep with the slide out in?

What, if anything have you done to brace it to carry the weight of 2 people? (not bantamweights either!)

Thank you

18 Replies

  • Why not just take the extra 20 seconds to extend it and know for sure? If you dont have that much extra time to waste while traveling I suggest a different hobby
  • 2012Coleman wrote:
    I can't understand why it would not be reccommended to sleep on it when in. My couch is in the slideout - and it i perfectly OK to sit on it if the slide is in. I also don't understand why you have to brace a slideout for stability during transit. I would imaging the slideout is more stable when it is in and would not need support.


    The difference is that when your couch slide is in, the bottom of the slide is supported from the cieling, and resting on the floor of the trailer. When the rear slide is in, the bottom of the slide is just hanging in the air, and the cieling is supporting all the weight. Many of the older rear sliders are well known for pulling the supports out of the cieling, which is why the OP uses home made supports.
  • Our manual for our 2006 says do not sleep in the slide unless deployed. It went on to explain that when the slide is in, it is only supported by the ceiling rails, and they are not designed to support the added weight.

    We never have.
  • OP here again.....sorry for the weird quote copy from Dutchman's post....somehow this line got included in my comments...not intended..

    I've never had experience with a set-up like that, but I would think if you have the bottom of the bed supported (inside), I would think it should work.
  • DutchmenSport wrote:
    I think the KZ is a hard-sided slide-out / pop-up style slide - out, that's just half the height of the wall, but slides out like a pop-up end, except it's hard sided. It slides on a rail, and if the weight on the bed is too much, it could potentially break down the slide rail (kind of like a slide rail for a kitchen drawer).

    The OP supports the underside of the slide, between the bottom of the slide and the floor with some extra support, so when bouncing down the road, it will not breaks the rails or slides. It would be like extending a drawer on your lower kitchen cabinet and then attempt to stand on the drawer and jump up and down, only the slide is on the inside of the camper. I'm assuming, when the slide is in the outward position, there is some support, much like a pop-up end.



    But perhaps the reason it's not recommended, is because unsupported weight could misalign, not just the rails, but could put too much weight at the top also, causing a misalignment there too.

    Not knowing your floor plan, is there any way you could use the dinette as a bed or the couch, or does the slide cover these when in the "in" position? Sleeping bag on the floor is also an option?



    this is a perfect description of my trailer and rear slide. Thanks for the assist.

    The drawer analogy is spot on. My concern in the alignment and the slide guides attached to the ceiling.

    I've never had experience with a set-up like that, but I would think if you have the bottom of the bed supported (inside), I would think it should work.
  • I think the KZ is a hard-sided slide-out / pop-up style slide - out, that's just half the height of the wall, but slides out like a pop-up end, except it's hard sided. It slides on a rail, and if the weight on the bed is too much, it could potentially break down the slide rail (kind of like a slide rail for a kitchen drawer).

    The OP supports the underside of the slide, between the bottom of the slide and the floor with some extra support, so when bouncing down the road, it will not breaks the rails or slides. It would be like extending a drawer on your lower kitchen cabinet and then attempt to stand on the drawer and jump up and down, only the slide is on the inside of the camper. I'm assuming, when the slide is in the outward position, there is some support, much like a pop-up end.

    I've never had experience with a set-up like that, but I would think if you have the bottom of the bed supported (inside), I would think it should work.

    But perhaps the reason it's not recommended, is because unsupported weight could misalign, not just the rails, but could put too much weight at the top also, causing a misalignment there too.

    Not knowing your floor plan, is there any way you could use the dinette as a bed or the couch, or does the slide cover these when in the "in" position? Sleeping bag on the floor is also an option?
  • Depending on the design, the slide may only be supported by a narrow strip while it's in. If that is the case then putting much weight on it can bust the strip (what I did) or according to one manufacturer (N. Woods mfg), pull the floor out of the bottom of the slide walls.
    So I would support the slide with the 2X4 if you proceed that way.
  • I can't understand why it would not be reccommended to sleep on it when in. My couch is in the slideout - and it i perfectly OK to sit on it if the slide is in. I also don't understand why you have to brace a slideout for stability during transit. I would imaging the slideout is more stable when it is in and would not need support.