Stopping.. or lack there of, when fully loaded-- Brake Pads
I would like to ask this topic be about pads only, here's the back-story.
So... Long story short, I almost always turn my own wrenches. But a circumstance about a month ago led me to have to use a shop down the street. I abruptly needed new front wheel bearings and no time to do it myself, I was leaving the very next day on a week-long vaca. While he was at it, I had him do everything--front pads, rotors and calipers.
Now I don't stop anywhere near as good loaded as I did before, bordering on flat out scary. Brakes feel mushy and lack grab. I have of course went back to him and insisted he put the exact same Ceramic pads I had before. He did not. He said he put these Hawk pads on ambulances. He seemed to think the pads may be bad, and did a like-for-like replacement.
I have had the system power-bled, no air in the system, no change before/after. No pull either left or right from the new front calipers. Infrared temp shows they are clearly working, the rotors get plenty hot. Anti-lock will not kick on loaded now, before I could. I can only get the anti-lock to activate empty now.
So.... Now that I got the back-story covered, back to my original ask --- Pads.
Organic
Semi-Metallic
Ceramic
Carbon-Composite
I had Ceramic. I called EBC brakes today. They said, very convincingly, I should go with thier EBC Carbon-Composite. They said these have the highest friction coefficient of any pad they have for my truck. (Model ED91308 if anyone wants to investigate). $200 for just front pads. The're quite proud of them.
They said they will create the highest gripping power possible on stock (new) rotors without causing overheat. I don't care about dust or actual rotor wear, I want to stop. Period. My truck is an '01 with 70k miles. If I run the rotors out in 20k, heck, that's like 5 years from now for me. but they did reiterate, they won't eat my rotors up.
They claim to have an FMSI friction level coding rating of G--based on a scale from E to H, H being Nascar racing pads.
So--
Pads.
Who has done a pad swap and noticed a difference from before to after - EXCLUDING worn out vs. new, I'm talking going from one brand/type to another when loaded.
Thanx all!
So... Long story short, I almost always turn my own wrenches. But a circumstance about a month ago led me to have to use a shop down the street. I abruptly needed new front wheel bearings and no time to do it myself, I was leaving the very next day on a week-long vaca. While he was at it, I had him do everything--front pads, rotors and calipers.
Now I don't stop anywhere near as good loaded as I did before, bordering on flat out scary. Brakes feel mushy and lack grab. I have of course went back to him and insisted he put the exact same Ceramic pads I had before. He did not. He said he put these Hawk pads on ambulances. He seemed to think the pads may be bad, and did a like-for-like replacement.
I have had the system power-bled, no air in the system, no change before/after. No pull either left or right from the new front calipers. Infrared temp shows they are clearly working, the rotors get plenty hot. Anti-lock will not kick on loaded now, before I could. I can only get the anti-lock to activate empty now.
So.... Now that I got the back-story covered, back to my original ask --- Pads.
Organic
Semi-Metallic
Ceramic
Carbon-Composite
I had Ceramic. I called EBC brakes today. They said, very convincingly, I should go with thier EBC Carbon-Composite. They said these have the highest friction coefficient of any pad they have for my truck. (Model ED91308 if anyone wants to investigate). $200 for just front pads. The're quite proud of them.
They said they will create the highest gripping power possible on stock (new) rotors without causing overheat. I don't care about dust or actual rotor wear, I want to stop. Period. My truck is an '01 with 70k miles. If I run the rotors out in 20k, heck, that's like 5 years from now for me. but they did reiterate, they won't eat my rotors up.
They claim to have an FMSI friction level coding rating of G--based on a scale from E to H, H being Nascar racing pads.
So--
Pads.
Who has done a pad swap and noticed a difference from before to after - EXCLUDING worn out vs. new, I'm talking going from one brand/type to another when loaded.
Thanx all!
