Thought this was funny.

blt2ski wrote:
Did any of you think, that "just maybe" he was telling the truth! If you call GM and ask them the tow rating for my deisel dually dmax, they will tell you 5K lbs! yep! because it did not come fromt eh factory with a hitch! so they go by the bumper capacity!

At the end of the day, it is up to the customer to know if the truck will do as it should for them! I had an 89 R3500 dually, talk about a poj, it had a th400, 454, 4.10's.....but do tot he super tall gearing in the tranny, it could not move its own wt 8500 lbs empty on a 15% grade! much less the gcwr of 16K lb!

Marty

Not possible with a 2010 Ford F-250 SuperDuty. All of them come with the towing package and a WD receiver hitch.

CampingN.C. wrote:
So I dropped my work truck off at the Ford place yesterday and while waiting for a ride I walked over and looked at a 2010 F-250 CCSB 4x4 with the V-10. Of course the salesman was up my butt before I even got to it.
Well the little info sticker in the window said "Max Towing Capacity 7000lbs. (yes 7,000) So I said "are you sure this isn't a typo". His reply was, "no it's correct, this thing will pull anything. There's not many trucks on our lot with a 7,000 pound towing capacity".

I just started laughing and walked away.

7,000 is the towing capacity of my 02 Explorer. Many salesman know so little about the product they push.

Perpetuated by ignorance of their customers...the main herd out there who do not
know enough about OEM specifications/ratings/etc

Brother was looking for a new car and I went along to help

While he was in the 'room' finalizing the paperwork...I moseyed over to look at
their SUVs and pickups

Noticed a tricked out half ton with a sand bar/roll bar that also had the spare
tire mounted on it. Next to nothing left for cargo in that bed

A kid came over to 'sell' me one...asked why the spare tire was not underneath
like the OEM...he thought for a second and said the shocks were serious off
road and too big so they had to move the spare tire up there...

Amazing and betcha he convinced some buyers of that...

Turned out to be the dealership owners son and when the manager heard
me giving that kid a bad time...he came over and told the kid his dad
wanted him up in the office...

gijoecam wrote:

blt2ski wrote:
Did any of you think, that "just maybe" he was telling the truth!

Nope. In my first post above, I cited the factory owners manual. 20000 gcwr minus the weight of the truck equals the towering capacity of that truck the op referenced. The dealer is, quite simply, wrong.

My trucks gcwr is 23500 less wt of truck at 7300 is way more than the 5000 lbs gm says my truck is rated for! BUT, they rate my truck at 5000 because it did not come with the factory reciever! The ford in question, may be the same reason! I do agree, that the rating should be higher......

Marty

blt2ski wrote:
Did any of you think, that "just maybe" he was telling the truth!

Nope. In my first post above, I cited the factory owners manual. 20000 gcwr minus the weight of the truck equals the towering capacity of that truck the op referenced. The dealer is, quite simply, wrong.

Did any of you think, that "just maybe" he was telling the truth! If you call GM and ask them the tow rating for my deisel dually dmax, they will tell you 5K lbs! yep! because it did not come fromt eh factory with a hitch! so they go by the bumper capacity!

At the end of the day, it is up to the customer to know if the truck will do as it should for them! I had an 89 R3500 dually, talk about a poj, it had a th400, 454, 4.10's.....but do tot he super tall gearing in the tranny, it could not move its own wt 8500 lbs empty on a 15% grade! much less the gcwr of 16K lb!

Marty

Dog wrote:


Your post reminded of when we bought our Dodge. I had owed a number of diesel pickups in my business, and of course knew the “basics” of them. The local Dodge dealer was a customer of mine.

I had not had a diesel truck for 5 years and asked the salesman if there was a “wait to start light” on the dash. His response: “OH No. These new ones don’t need them.” (2005 model year)

Of course, the light was there. Scary isn’t it? I still bought the truck, but his answer tipped me to the fact that he was an idiot when it came to trucks and I bargained even harder than normal.

On the first oil change the service writer tried to tell my wife that if we did not do the current recall and re flash the computer she would call “our finance company.” HUH? Our truck was paid for in cash!

Idiot salesman, threating, lying service writers---We scratched this dealer of our list. Customer or not.

Your post reminded me...Went to a different Ford dealer, in Alabama, for an oil change. After he advised they changed the oil and topped off all fluids' I checked to see if the DEF had been topped off. It had not. Even thought the Ford manual specifies the DEF should be filled at oil change intervals. I went back in to ask them to top off the DEF. After 15 minutes they brought me back my truck and said..."All set. Had to add 10 Gallons. That will be $68." That is $6 and change per gallon. Problem is the DEF tank only holds 5.2 gallons. Yeah...Regardless of brand, there are idiots at dealers out there.

I don't consider the relationship to be adversarial at all. In fact, I always try to teach the salesperson something they don't know about their product when they come to "help" me. I'm usually successful, and it's usually not too difficult. :)

Vulcaneer wrote:

Dog Folks wrote:
Well, after all, you were on a Ford lot. To get towing capacity seek out the Dodge sign. LOL

JUST KIDDING!

I know you are kidding. But when I was looking to purchase a 2012 RAM 3500 srw, we stopped at a RAM dealer to ask what the cargo capacity of that model was. The designated truck manager response..."It's a 3500. So it will carry 3500 pounds of cargo." And he wasn't kidding.

As soon as he got that out of his mouth, I was walking out the door...shaking my head.

But the real problem I had was, this was the third RAM dealer where I tried to get the same info. One guy actually researched for 30 minutes. And finally admitted he could not get information he could believe. But he actually tried to answer the question. The other dealer, said he did not know. But the truck manager would be in tomorrow. I could call him.

I really wanted to buy a RAM. But the dealers made me buy a Ford. Had a very different experience at the Ford dealership. When I asked to price out a F350, the sales guy asked why an F350. I told him to tow my 14,250# 5th wheel. He pulled out his spec sheet and showed me the CCC of the F350.

Said he just sold a new truck to a couple, that had bought the wrong truck from another dealer. He wanted to make sure the truck was correct size for the need. Probably a very unusual encounter. But he sold me my truck.

Your post reminded of when we bought our Dodge. I had owed a number of diesel pickups in my business, and of course knew the “basics” of them. The local Dodge dealer was a customer of mine.

I had not had a diesel truck for 5 years and asked the salesman if there was a “wait to start light” on the dash. His response: “OH No. These new ones don’t need them.” (2005 model year)

Of course, the light was there. Scary isn’t it? I still bought the truck, but his answer tipped me to the fact that he was an idiot when it came to trucks and I bargained even harder than normal.

On the first oil change the service writer tried to tell my wife that if we did not do the current recall and re flash the computer she would call “our finance company.” HUH? Our truck was paid for in cash!

Idiot salesman, threating, lying service writers---We scratched this dealer of our list. Customer or not.

Tystevens wrote:

And if you EVER are relying on someone for accurate advice who is in an adversarial relationship to you, you are doing it wrong!

Ding ding ding!!!! We have a winner. Be prepared and then laugh at their mistakes....as long as you have the upper hand!:W