Tundra vs. Silverado question
I have a 2014 Silverado 5.3L V8 with tow capacity of 9700# and payload capacity of 1638# according to the sticker on the door jamb. I tow my camper with it, which fully loaded weighs close to 9500#. ...
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In the past, the weight differences were maybe 200 lbs of tare for a given chassis. Todays 25 series trucks are 1500 or so heavier base weight! Reality, manufactures have had to up the springs axles, brakes etc into the next DOT weight classification to cover that weight. Along with bigger axles for the additional HP so things dont break.....this is good, but for a number of us, that extra frame, axle, weight etc, does not do someone that needs a bit more than my 1500 has at 7200 lbs. Legally I'm at 8000, same as my 400 lbs lighter 8lug C2500 reg cab I had. my 88 ext cab was just under 6000 lbs empty, today a reg cab is over 6000 lbs empty.....the reg cabs both have about 4000 lbs of payload for a 25 series truck. My 96 crew cab with an 8' bed weighed 6600, my 05 dually CC was 7300. A CC SW short bed pulled into a fuel station next to me, the fellow said his truck empty was 8400 lbs! Yeah his gvwr was on par with my dually at 11500, he still had 1000 lbs less payload! per door sticker mind you.
A 1500HD equal today if you can get one with ALL the cab and 6.5 or 8' bed, weighting in at 6000 lbs empty, 8600-9200 gvwr, granted a 6000-6400 graw vs todays 7500....license like I would here in Wa st, at 10K, I've got 3500 to 4000 lbs of legal payload. My 1500 is at 8000, about 2800 legal payload, same as I did with the C2500....not over 8000 enough with either to pay for 10K plates.....
The tital with a 5K grawr was the killer, and the MPG with the diesel was on par with most SB gas rigs, with similar power, so the $3-4K extra cost was not doing anything. An 8600 gvwr rig as I am describing, put the 6cyl diesel that litphil has in his 1500, with a 10.5" FF ra, 6000 grawr, 3.73 gears, 10 sp, 25-30 mph empty, ability to carry 3000-3500 lbs, pull a 10K trailer.....
That DOT clas 2b 8401-10,000 gvwr rig does not exist any more! Every thing is a class 3 10,001-13500 Class 3! my 1500 technically is a class 2a 6001-8400! Not sure a true 15 series under 6000 gvwr in a full size exhists any more.....
Should probably get off my soap box.......
Marty
A 1500HD equal today if you can get one with ALL the cab and 6.5 or 8' bed, weighting in at 6000 lbs empty, 8600-9200 gvwr, granted a 6000-6400 graw vs todays 7500....license like I would here in Wa st, at 10K, I've got 3500 to 4000 lbs of legal payload. My 1500 is at 8000, about 2800 legal payload, same as I did with the C2500....not over 8000 enough with either to pay for 10K plates.....
The tital with a 5K grawr was the killer, and the MPG with the diesel was on par with most SB gas rigs, with similar power, so the $3-4K extra cost was not doing anything. An 8600 gvwr rig as I am describing, put the 6cyl diesel that litphil has in his 1500, with a 10.5" FF ra, 6000 grawr, 3.73 gears, 10 sp, 25-30 mph empty, ability to carry 3000-3500 lbs, pull a 10K trailer.....
That DOT clas 2b 8401-10,000 gvwr rig does not exist any more! Every thing is a class 3 10,001-13500 Class 3! my 1500 technically is a class 2a 6001-8400! Not sure a true 15 series under 6000 gvwr in a full size exhists any more.....
Should probably get off my soap box.......
Marty
