Where's the payload sticker on Rams?
I looked at the sticker on the door with the VIN, GAWR and GVWR. I expected it to include the available payload, but can't seem to find it.
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mich800 wrote:
It sure would be interesting!!transferred wrote:
Sounds like the guy with the 10k gvwr sticker option on the F350 is screwed in court.Me Again wrote:
It's almost always the 3/4 ton and below guys that say this. If you're ever in a wreck where you're at 12k GVWR (which would also certainly put you over your RAWR) and injure another party (and I hope your never are) then the manufacturer's rating suddenly becomes very relevant, especially given you are aware of it.
OK, I have to repeat this in yet another thread. Washington state licensed our 8800 GVWR Dodge RAM at 12K. They do not give a rip about the manufacturers GVWR. They take tare weight times 1.5 and round up to next higher even K. Chris
Based on my inside experience with company lawyers you would be hard pressed to find one who would say "The truck is actually rated for 12,000# but it was de-rated to 10,000# for tax and license purposes".
We all know that it actually the case but I suspect to find someone to back it up in court would be a challenge.- The company I worked for put 11K farm tags on the Chey van I drove. Its gvw was 7800. I have 9k on my personal truck.
transferred wrote:
Me Again wrote:
OK, I have to repeat this in yet another thread. Washington state licensed our 8800 GVWR Dodge RAM at 12K. They do not give a rip about the manufacturers GVWR. They take tare weight times 1.5 and round up to next higher even K. Chris
It's almost always the 3/4 ton and below guys that say this. If you're ever in a wreck where you're at 12k GVWR (which would also certainly put you over your RAWR) and injure another party (and I hope your never are) then the manufacturer's rating suddenly becomes very relevant, especially given you are aware of it.
Sounds like the guy with the 10k gvwr sticker option on the F350 is screwed in court.Me Again wrote:
OK, I have to repeat this in yet another thread. Washington state licensed our 8800 GVWR Dodge RAM at 12K. They do not give a rip about the manufacturers GVWR. They take tare weight times 1.5 and round up to next higher even K. Chris
It's almost always the 3/4 ton and below guys that say this. If you're ever in a wreck where you're at 12k GVWR (which would also certainly put you over your RAWR) and injure another party (and I hope your never are) then the manufacturer's rating suddenly becomes very relevant, especially given you are aware of it.john&bet wrote:
Maybe you guys should reference the year/s you are talking about. My '04.5 truck does not have a tire loading label. Guess it must be to old. My '11 jeep does though.
According to Kaydeejay (who is in the industry) it began in 2005. I have no reason to doubt him.- Maybe you guys should reference the year/s you are talking about. My '04.5 truck does not have a tire loading label. Guess it must be to old. My '11 jeep does though.
- OK, I have to repeat this in yet another thread. Washington state licensed our 8800 GVWR Dodge RAM at 12K. They do not give a rip about the manufacturers GVWR. They take tare weight times 1.5 and round up to next higher even K. Chris
mich800 wrote:
wilber1 wrote:
kaydeejay wrote:
wilber1 wrote:
Not sure about Canada, but max. payload capacity IS a legal requirement in the US since 2005.
Not saying they don't exist but I have never seen a payload number on a door sticker. GVWR and axle ratings are legal requirements, payload is not and will be different for every truck depending on how it is optioned.
The label on the door pillar must state "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed xxxx#/xxxxKg"
That number is the max PAYLOAD capacity!
Odd choice of words then. Should instead of shall or will. Should is normally used as a recommendation rather than a directive.
Me Again already covered that.
Not really but it doesn't matter as the only thing in question in a court would be GVWR and GAWR. There is no should when it comes to them, only shall.
That''s why it is on the loading information sticker and not the load limits sticker.wilber1 wrote:
kaydeejay wrote:
wilber1 wrote:
Not sure about Canada, but max. payload capacity IS a legal requirement in the US since 2005.
Not saying they don't exist but I have never seen a payload number on a door sticker. GVWR and axle ratings are legal requirements, payload is not and will be different for every truck depending on how it is optioned.
The label on the door pillar must state "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed xxxx#/xxxxKg"
That number is the max PAYLOAD capacity!
Odd choice of words then. Should instead of shall or will. Should is normally used as a recommendation rather than a directive.
Me Again already covered that.wilber1 wrote:
US Government directed wording, not the Manufacturers.kaydeejay wrote:
Odd choice of words then. Should instead of shall or will. Should is normally used as a recommendation rather than a directive.
Not sure about Canada, but max. payload capacity IS a legal requirement in the US since 2005.
The label on the door pillar must state "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed xxxx#/xxxxKg"
That number is the max PAYLOAD capacity!
BTW, that number is calculated for EACH vehicle "as built" and the label is unique to a specific vehicle.
It is NOT a requirement for vehicles over 10,000# GVWR.
