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help with outlets not working in 2019 pacearrow 36u

paries
Explorer
Explorer
Hello,
i have a 2019 fleetwood pacearrow 36u

the two outlets one the main bedroom slideout have quit working.

I have checked each plug and the look ok
I have checked the breakers
i have check all GFI plugs.

We are getting ready to leave for a 1000 mile trip and i am really concerned about an electrical fire.

I realize that this is a pretty specific model question, but maybe someone has some info or ideas that may help me trouble shoot this

Thanks
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enblethen
Nomad
Nomad
Thanks for the update.
Safe Travels!

Bud
USAF Retired
Pace Arrow


2003 Chev Ice Road Tracker

paries
Explorer
Explorer
i have an update, found the problem. I removed the mattress and there are two access panels under the mattress(in the bottom of the box of the bed) these two access panels allow you to see some of the wiring. One of the plugs(a clear plug that has the yellow 14/2 going to it) was just a little loose. reconnected it and plugs are working again....

opnspaces
Navigator II
Navigator II
Did you check for power with the slide in as well as out? I loose wire might only have good connection in one position.
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enblethen
Nomad
Nomad
Internal of some GFCI receptacles for feed through function is separate from the GFCI circuit.
Plugging in a three light tester would show, open hot, open neutral, open ground.
This is on my Ames GST-125. Mes GST-125
Tester would be plugged into dead receptacle(s).
It won't tell where the problem is. Only guaranteed test of GFCI feed through feature is with voltmeter connected to load terminals.

Bud
USAF Retired
Pace Arrow


2003 Chev Ice Road Tracker

CA_Traveler
Explorer III
Explorer III
enblethen wrote:
GFCI receptacles have what is called a feed through feature. GFCI receptacle may work but nothing downstream. Only test is to pull it out and check output.
Enlighten me as I though the plug on the GFCI was directly connected to it's load terminals and not downstream of it's switch or coil.
A three light tester would help identify whether it is a broken wire or ?.
Downstream plugs on the GFCI which can help isolate the problem.
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Bob

rk911
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Explorer
paries wrote:
So if i had a bad GFI, would the NOT be working. I have plugged something into both GFI's and they both work

yes, they would NOT be working if they were tripped. hence my theory that you have another GFCI somewhere.
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midnightsadie
Explorer II
Explorer II
sounds like your doing a good job checking, might trace the 14teen wire to its source.

enblethen
Nomad
Nomad
GFCI receptacles have what is called a feed through feature. GFCI receptacle may work but nothing downstream. Only test is to pull it out and check output.
A three light tester would help identify whether it is a broken wire or ?.
Flipping of breakers is not a good way to operate circuit breakers. You should turn breakers off applying light pressure toward off, turn on main breaker if equipped, then turn on branch breaker one at a time.

Bud
USAF Retired
Pace Arrow


2003 Chev Ice Road Tracker

paries
Explorer
Explorer
yeah, all the plugs in the rig appear to work except the two in the slideout.
The slide out is solid underneath, so there is nothing to look at there.
I pulled out the two outlets and they appear to be connected ok, and there is only one 14/2 coming to both, so i am afraid I may have to get under the bed. (That should be fun).

CA_Traveler
Explorer III
Explorer III
paries wrote:
So if i had a bad GFI, would the NOT be working. I have plugged something into both GFI's and they both work
Most liklely OK, but the load side wiring could be loose.

I'd plug in a 3 light tester with a GFCI trip button and make sure they actually trip.
About $20.

Have you tested ALL of the other plugs to determine that it is only those 3 that don't work?
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rgatijnet1
Explorer III
Explorer III
Check the circuit breakers on your INVERTER itself. This would be in a basement compartment. Mine had two circuit breakers and when when one of them tripped, I would always lose some outlets. These are not to be confused with any circuit breakers in your electrical panel. They are right on the front of your inverter.

paries
Explorer
Explorer
So if i had a bad GFI, would the NOT be working. I have plugged something into both GFI's and they both work

CA_Traveler
Explorer III
Explorer III
Buy a 3 light household plug checker with a button to check GFCI and check all RV plugs. Are the 3 lights on and does the button trip the GFCI plug?

You could have a loose wire or bad GFCI.

FULLY flip all CBs off and then on.
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Bruce_Brown
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Another vote for the GFI. We lost 1/2 our outlets once, everything seemed good. On the advice of an electric guy here (thanks Larry!) we changed the GFI and everything's been good since. That was years ago, so obviously it was the cause.
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