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J-Rooster
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Mar 05, 2015

Lake Havasu City RV Parks

I would like to hear opinions on the changing RV scene in Lake Havasu City, AZ. It came to my attention that there was a changing of the guard at the Beachcomber RV Resort? Jim Santiago was the lease holder there for many years. A State of Arizona lease auction happened recently in Kingman, AZ. and Jim was outbid by a person named Peter Patel. Peter won via bid a 38 year lease at 30.2 million dollars. Peter gave notice to everyone at the Beachcomber that there would be a 100% rate increase in rent and it's pay up or vacate within 10 days! I'm aware being the new lease holder that Peter can do what we wants! What concerns me is how will this effect other RV rates at other RV Parks in LHC? Peter needs to raise 1 million dollars a year thru rents to make the lease payment work yearly according to a newspaper article. Will the other RV Resorts/Parks continue with there prices of $375.00 to $500.00 per month or will they follow Peter at $1,000.00 per month per space? I also read in the paper where Crazyhorse just renewed there lease but I don't know if rents will be raised there. And, I was shocked that the State of Arizona wouldn't renew Sandpoint RV Parks lease and they had to shutdown this past Jan.31st and the State has commented it doesn't know what to do with that land? The Beachcomber is now asking top dollar for land currently that is not worth the price for rent!
  • hotjag1 wrote:
    I read the same article. My guess is that the new owner will double the space rent and hope that the tenants will vacate voluntarily. I'm also guessing that he actually wants the land for a hotel or condos.

    We stayed at the Islander RV park for a couple of months this winter and the price for a waterfront view site was $675 a month plus electric.

    We ended up getting a really good deal on a home on a large lot with a great view of the lake and mountains for the same amount per month as the RV space.

    It was an easy decision to have a home for the same price as what we were paying for a 40' x 60' RV site.


    When we were looking for a home in Havasu at the beginning of last year, we had just left the annual Quartzsite RV event and, needed a space at ANY RV PARK in Lake Havasu. Well, due to the amount of Snow Birds that "nest" in Havasu for the winter season, spaces in just about any park, are, to say the least, few and far between.

    We ended up staying at the Islander for four days, while we drove by and, looked at, over 50 homes for sale. We had to move, every day because folks were still coming in for snow birding. We needed a site for two more days, to check out the last of the homes for sale. They gave us a water front spot that was vacant for those two days.

    Yeoooooowwwww! $100.00 per night, just because it was a water front sight. Well, we took it because we needed a place to stay. We were at the time, unaware of the State Parks "over flow area" at the time or, we'd have moved to there. $100.00 a night is pure ridiculous and even if we'd not found a home, we wouldn't be staying in that park or, Beachcomber. To each his own. When you're renting in some of those over-glorified trailer parks, you're at the mercy of whomever owns them. There's a plan to kick out many or all, of the mobile home owners on Mission Bay in San Diego too. It's been in the workings for quite some time now. But those owners are running into some static over there.

    The state park has some outstanding sights. You're not nearly as close to each other as you are in the other parks. And, it's seriously cheaper than those other ones too. The only draw back, you only get 14 days at a stretch. If we didn't live here now, and we wanted to stay in Havasu, we'd definitely set it up way in advance for spaces at the State Park.

    I read all that stuff too. I don't know what kind of tactical plan those big spenders have. I do know that half that town is GONE during the heated months so, if they plan on building any new hotels etc. on that island, they're going to see some serious vacancies, just like the other hotels at Havasu during those times. We've driven by many of the hotels during the hot months and, there's not many customers cars in the parking lots, weekdays or, weekends.

    And, even during the normal weekdays and weekends in the winter months, there's tons of vacancies. They do a good business when there's a large event, for a weekend but, the following week, etc, it's back to empty parking lots for the most part. Oh, there will be some travelers here and there but, no filled parking lots, week after week, like you see in busier cities.
    Scott
  • I read the same article. My guess is that the new owner will double the space rent and hope that the tenants will vacate voluntarily. I'm also guessing that he actually wants the land for a hotel or condos.

    We stayed at the Islander RV park for a couple of months this winter and the price for a waterfront view site was $675 a month plus electric.

    We ended up getting a really good deal on a home on a large lot with a great view of the lake and mountains for the same amount per month as the RV space.

    It was an easy decision to have a home for the same price as what we were paying for a 40' x 60' RV site.
  • The whole story behind this is just like a soap opera. It boils down to vengeance. There is no doubt about the rent being doubled. It is a done deal and some residents have already left.
    Dave
  • rv2go wrote:
    I have never stayed there, but let's face it, some areas of the park needs to be cleaned up. Maybe the new rates will move some of the "squatters" out.
    I seriously doubt the rates will go to a $1000 a month. The amenities are just not worth that price. Lots of better places to stay.
    I hope your right about the rates! I got my info from the LHC News Hearld!
  • Executive wrote:
    Sounds like the State robbed "Peter" to pay "Paul"......get what you can cuz it ain't gonna last forever......rents are like anything else...it's what the market will bear...if they're too high, he'll have too many vacancies and "bingo" the State will be able to sell it again...IMHO, he's raised the rates to effect a "voluntary" eviction. Done many times in the past, especially if there are leases involved that weren't set aside by the auction.. Once the property is clean then he can start fresh or sell the land for a hotel, big box store or whatever the highest and best use of the land foretells.........Dennis
    Very good point Dennis! This guy owns the hotel (and leases the land from the State) that has the neon lights going across the top of it on the Island about a 1/4 mile before you get to the Islander RV Park. I know Jim Santiago wanted that lease because he owns outright the land that is in the old part of the Beachcomber just in front of the new part of the Beachcomber! It sounds like to me that Jim bid it up and dropped it on him! It will be interesting to see what happens? I'm not going to stay at the Beachcomber anymore when I go down there in the winter due to this guys attitude! Islander RV here I come!
  • Sounds like the State robbed "Peter" to pay "Paul"......get what you can cuz it ain't gonna last forever......rents are like anything else...it's what the market will bear...if they're too high, he'll have too many vacancies and "bingo" the State will be able to sell it again...IMHO, he's raised the rates to effect a "voluntary" eviction. Done many times in the past, especially if there are leases involved that weren't set aside by the auction.. Once the property is clean then he can start fresh or sell the land for a hotel, big box store or whatever the highest and best use of the land foretells.........Dennis
  • I have never stayed there, but let's face it, some areas of the park needs to be cleaned up. Maybe the new rates will move some of the "squatters" out.
    I seriously doubt the rates will go to a $1000 a month. The amenities are just not worth that price. Lots of better places to stay.