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Tire Pressure and Temperature Variation

rperrym
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Just installed the TST TPMS system on our Canyon Star. Took the MH over to the gas station for topping off, and returned to the storage building, about 2 miles round trip. The tire pressures came up about 5-6 psi and the temperatures rose about 15 degrees. My cold tire pressure is set at 105 psi. I am curious how much rise in pressure and temperatures others see at highway speeds on hot days, i.e. 95 degrees.
Thanks,

Rick
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rgatijnet1
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Keep in mind that if your TPMS sensors are located at the end of a long inflator extension on your duals, that the temperature reading will not reflect what the actual tire temperature is.

J-Rooster
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Rick, I air my tires up to 100 psi all around before I go on a trip. I do the same when coming back and never check in between unless, I'm going on a very long trip.

wallynm
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Air Pressure, Temperature Fluctuations


Your tires support the weight of your vehicle, right? Well they don't! It's the air pressure inside them that actually supports the weight. Maintaining sufficient air pressure is required if your tires are to provide all of the handling, traction and durability of which they are capable.

However, you can't set tire pressure...and then forget about it! Tire pressure has to be checked periodically to assure that the influences of time, changes in ambient temperatures or a small tread puncture have not caused it to change.

The tire pressure recommended in your vehicle's owner's manual or tire information placard is the vehicle's recommended cold tire inflation pressure. This means that it should be checked in the morning before you drive more than a few miles, or before rising ambient temperatures or the sun's radiant heat affects it.

Since air is a gas, it expands when heated and contracts when cooled. In most parts of North America, this makes fall and early winter months the most critical times to check inflation pressures...days are getting shorter...ambient temperatures are getting colder...and your tires' inflation pressure is going down!

"Tire pressure has to be checked periodically to assure that the influences of time, changes in ambient temperatures or a small tread puncture have not caused it to change."

The rule of thumb is for every 10° Fahrenheit change in air temperature, tire pressures will change about 2% (up with higher temperatures and down with lower). This means that light-duty, standard-pressure tires (typically inflated to 30-50 psi) used in applications on cars, vans and light trucks will change by about 1 psi; where heavy-duty, high-pressure tires (typically inflated to 80-100 psi) used in applications on recreational vehicles, busses and trucks will change by about 2 psi.

In most parts of North America, the difference between average summer and winter temperatures is about -50° Fahrenheit...which results in a potential loss of about 5 psi as winter's temperatures set in. And a 5 psi loss is enough to sacrifice handling, traction, and durability!

Additionally, the difference between cold nighttime temperatures and hot daytime temperatures in most parts of the country is about 20° Fahrenheit. This means that after setting tire pressures first thing in the morning, the vehicle's tire pressures will be almost 2 psi higher when measured in the afternoon (if the vehicle was parked in the shade). While that is expected, the problem is when you set your vehicle's tire pressures in the heat of the day, their cold pressures will probably be 2 psi low the following morning.

And finally, if the vehicle is parked in the sun, the sun's radiant heat will artificially and temporarily increase tire pressures.

We put some of these theories to the test at the Tire Rack. First, we mounted two tires on wheels. We let them sit overnight to equalize and stabilize their temperatures and pressures. The following morning we set them both to 35 psi. One tire and wheel was placed in the shade while the other was placed directly in the sun. We then monitored the ambient temperatures, tire temperatures and tire pressures through the day. As the day's temperatures went from 67° to 85° Fahrenheit, the tire that was kept in the shade went from our starting pressure of 35 psi to a high of 36.5 psi. The tire that was placed in the sun and subject to the increase in ambient temperature plus the sun's radiant heat went from our starting pressure of 35 psi to a high of 40 psi. In both cases, if we had set our tire pressures in the afternoon under the conditions of our evaluation, they would have been between 2 and 5 psi low the following morning.

Next we evaluated the effects of heat generated by the tire's flexing during use. We tried to eliminate the variable conditions we might encounter on the road by conducting this test using our "competition tire heat cycling service" that rolls the tires under load against the machine's rollers to simulate real world driving. We monitored the changes in tire pressure test tires were inflated to 15 psi, 20 psi, 25 psi and 30 psi. Running them all under the same load, the air pressure in all of the tires went up about 1 psi during every 5 minutes of use for the first 20 minutes of operation. Then the air pressures stabilized, typically gaining no more than 1 psi of additional pressure during the next 20 minutes. This means that even a short drive to inflate your tires will result in tires that will probably be under-inflated by a few psi the following morning.

Add all of these together, and you can understand why the conditions in which you set your vehicle's tire pressures are almost as important as the fact that you do set it.

It's important to remember that your vehicle's recommended tire pressure is its cold tire inflation pressure. It should be checked in the morning before you drive more than a few miles, or before rising ambient temperatures or the sun's radiant heat affects it.

And by the way, if you live in the North and park in an attached or heated garage you will lose pressure when you leave its warmth and venture into the real world outside during winter. Add 1 psi cold tire pressure to compensate for each 10° Fahrenheit temperature difference between the temperature in the garage and outside.
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FormerBoater
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Bridgestone used to have a column on the web by the "Tire Doctor".

It is no longer there, but he opined that a properly inflated truck tire when fully under highway use (30 minutes or more) would be approximately 40 degrees F above ambient temperature.

This has proven to be consistent on our rig regardless of ambient temperature.

Tire size is 275/70/22.5
Dave
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rperrym
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Yes, 100 is what is shown on the tire/weight table in the motorhome. We have not weighed it yet, but we have very little in the MH as of now. All bays are mostly empty. I am currently using 105 for cold tire pressure which is 5psi over the label.

Thanks,
Rick

Ivylog
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Assuming 105 is 5psi higher than the weight table (this what I do) you could see 115-120 on a hot day. Your inside dual could go 4-5 higher than it's mate.
This post is my opinion (free advice). It is not intended to influence anyone's judgment nor do I advocate anyone do what I propose.
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RoyF
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When properly inflated, my pressure may go up 10 psi or so. At highway speed the temperature doesn't go up much above ambient, but when parked or in slow traffic the tire temp can go up 10 or 15 degrees above ambient on the sunny side.

10forty2
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That sounds pretty normal...of course if this is your first TPMS, then you will be uber-cautious about it. When I first installed mine, after having 2 blowouts a month apart from each other, I spent more time watching the pressures and temps than driving...not really, but it seemed that way. I finally learned that I'm looking for large variations and for them to happen rapidly. 20-30psi increase in pressure and a 25 degree temp increase is pretty normal. Now, if the pressure DROPS suddenly and/or the temp shoots up as fast, you have a problem and need to pull over to check it out. With a TPMS, you are looking for indications that something is wrong based on normal readings. And to get those normal readings, you'll have to drive it around and pay attention to the TPMS.
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rgatijnet1
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If the tires were set to the correct pressure, based upon having the coach weighed when fully loaded, then the rise in pressure or temperature is normal, no matter what it is.
The big variable is that if you have NOT had the coach weighed, and the tires set to the proper temperature, then you have no way of knowing what is a normal increase in temperature. If the tire pressure is too low, the temperature will go up quickly.