Check In / Check Out Times

[SoundGuy]

Here in Ontario in the provincial park system check out time from a campsite has been 2 pm for as long as I can remember. Obviously if someone else is on the site we're checking in to the current occupants have the right to not vacate the site until that time, 'though in most cases folks do seem to not drag their departure out to the last second so if we arrive early and the site is empty we're free to start setting up. If it is still occupied because we've arrived early then we'll wander off to the beach or elsewhere until 2 pm. Seems fair enough and most seem to be happy with this policy :B

Today I started the reservation process for a campsite in a nearby conservation area where the campsite departure time has always been 1 pm, a bit earlier than I'd prefer but acceptable. As I worked my way through the new reservation system they're now using I was shocked to read that their check out time is now 9 am and the check in time for the next occupant is 10 am! Say what?!! Do they seriously expect people to pack up and get off a site by 9 in the morning, especially if it's a family with a gaggle of kids and all the additional "stuff" any family tends to drag along with them on a camping trip?!! Seriously? All this and they've simultaneously raised the campsite fee so it's now over $53 Cdn per night and raised the reservation fee to a whopping $15. :E

Needless to say I used their contact email addy to express my disgust but likewise needless to say I expect no response justifying such ridiculous changes in their camping policies. I've got one reservation for this place that I made back in the winter that we'll keep because we're camping with my nephew and his family but after that I doubt we'll ever go back there again. :M

Time to get our NEXUS cards so we can quickly slip across the border for more camping in the US! :B

[toedtoes]

Lantley wrote:

Walaby wrote:

Lantley wrote:

Fizz wrote:
Never seen such a disorganized bunch openly say they can't get it together on pack-up day.

It's simple:
The night before you pack away everything you won't use the next morning.
Toys, canoes, bicycles are all packed away.
Simple breakfast, lunch, catch your breath then go.

What you pack away the night before impacts the night before.
Do I shut down Saturday at 6:00 so that I can depart Sunday by 11:00?
There is merrit to putting things away early, however in order to leave swiftly it requires sacrificing part of the evening's activities the night before. I am not willing to give up Saturday night for the sake of Sunday morning.

It's really not rocket science. Night before I leave, I put away stuff Im not going to use either that night, or the next AM. It doesn't take 3 hours to break camp. I get up in the AM. Eat breakfast, lounge around, maybe visit RV.net, take my last dump, then do the tank dumps (if FHU), flush, pack up stuff, take dog for last walk, hook up and go.

It's not difficult, and I find it humorous that there are 8 pages debating this. Almost as bad as asking when do you make your bed.

Mike

"How many hours does it take folks to pack up? I usually do a basic clean up the night before and then the actual pack up takes less than 15 minutes."
I have no issue getting out by 11 however it is more than a 15 minute endeavor.
The only way I can pack up in 15 minutes is if I shut down the night before.

Lantley, the 15 minutes was my time. I understand that others may require more than that. But the discussion has been that an 11 am (or even 1 pm) checkout time cannot be met. As you indicate, you have no issue getting out by 11 am - even with a longer pack up time.

So why CAN'T people get out by 11 am (or 1 pm) as some have argued? Other than a desire to stay longer, there seems to be no actual inability to meet the check out time. The arguments that have suggested an inability have been shown to be false - such as tent campers requiring more time.

So, it appears that the check out times do work fine. Just some people would prefer a different one. And once you get into preferences versus needs, you will never please everyone. For every person who wants a 3 pm check out, there is a person who wants an 11 am checkin. Whose preference takes precedent?

[toedtoes]

SoundGuy wrote:

toedtoes wrote:
Soundguy your arguments are getting weaker and weaker every time. The truth is YOU want a later checkout so you are making up generalities to justify that what you want is the only reasonable solution.

Thanks for a good laugh. :W Look in the mirror if you want to see who's being argumentative ... or look back on your many posts in this thread which do just that. :S I've simply pointed out why a later check out works better for many, for a variety of reasons ... happily our Ontario provincial park system which manages 20,000 campsites agrees. :B

"Check in time is after 2:00 p.m. and check out time is before 2:00 p.m."

Right. You have been arguing since your first post and even after you found out there had been no change to the checkout time at the park in question. You brought up the "fact" that tent campers can't pack up in the time allowed - yet when a statement from a tent camper says differently, you say their comment is ridiculous.

So have at it. Have the last word. Justify your argument with falsehoods, made up problems, etc. The truth is the check out times work fine for the majority of people. And if you don't like one park's policy, then you'll find another that meets your preferences.

[SoundGuy]

toedtoes wrote:
Soundguy your arguments are getting weaker and weaker every time. The truth is YOU want a later checkout so you are making up generalities to justify that what you want is the only reasonable solution.

Thanks for a good laugh. :W Look in the mirror if you want to see who's being argumentative ... or look back on your many posts in this thread which do just that. :S I've simply pointed out why a later check out works better for many, for a variety of reasons ... happily our Ontario provincial park system which manages 20,000 campsites agrees. :B

"Check in time is after 2:00 p.m. and check out time is before 2:00 p.m."

[Lantley]

Walaby wrote:

Lantley wrote:

Fizz wrote:
Never seen such a disorganized bunch openly say they can't get it together on pack-up day.

It's simple:
The night before you pack away everything you won't use the next morning.
Toys, canoes, bicycles are all packed away.
Simple breakfast, lunch, catch your breath then go.

What you pack away the night before impacts the night before.
Do I shut down Saturday at 6:00 so that I can depart Sunday by 11:00?
There is merrit to putting things away early, however in order to leave swiftly it requires sacrificing part of the evening's activities the night before. I am not willing to give up Saturday night for the sake of Sunday morning.

It's really not rocket science. Night before I leave, I put away stuff Im not going to use either that night, or the next AM. It doesn't take 3 hours to break camp. I get up in the AM. Eat breakfast, lounge around, maybe visit RV.net, take my last dump, then do the tank dumps (if FHU), flush, pack up stuff, take dog for last walk, hook up and go.

It's not difficult, and I find it humorous that there are 8 pages debating this. Almost as bad as asking when do you make your bed.

Mike

"How many hours does it take folks to pack up? I usually do a basic clean up the night before and then the actual pack up takes less than 15 minutes."
I have no issue getting out by 11 however it is more than a 15 minute endeavor.
The only way I can pack up in 15 minutes is if I shut down the night before.

[drsteve]

Even when the kids were young and we had them, and often their friends, and all their junk, breaking camp was never that big of a deal.

[Walaby]

Lantley wrote:

Fizz wrote:
Never seen such a disorganized bunch openly say they can't get it together on pack-up day.

It's simple:
The night before you pack away everything you won't use the next morning.
Toys, canoes, bicycles are all packed away.
Simple breakfast, lunch, catch your breath then go.

What you pack away the night before impacts the night before.
Do I shut down Saturday at 6:00 so that I can depart Sunday by 11:00?
There is merrit to putting things away early, however in order to leave swiftly it requires sacrificing part of the evening's activities the night before. I am not willing to give up Saturday night for the sake of Sunday morning.

It's really not rocket science. Night before I leave, I put away stuff Im not going to use either that night, or the next AM. It doesn't take 3 hours to break camp. I get up in the AM. Eat breakfast, lounge around, maybe visit RV.net, take my last dump, then do the tank dumps (if FHU), flush, pack up stuff, take dog for last walk, hook up and go.

It's not difficult, and I find it humorous that there are 8 pages debating this. Almost as bad as asking when do you make your bed.

Mike

[Grit_dog]

Fizz wrote:
Never seen such a disorganized bunch openly say they can't get it together on pack-up day.

It's simple:
The night before you pack away everything you won't use the next morning.
Toys, canoes, bicycles are all packed away.
Simple breakfast, lunch, catch your breath then go.

But it’s more fun to argue about semantics and contradict youreelf or someone else repeatedly.....this is just one of many arguing about the sky being blue threads.
Great entertainment!

[toedtoes]

And you are defining "standard" as "only". There are always exceptions to a standard. But it you look at check out times throughout North America, you will find that 11 am to 1 pm is the standard - with some places having a later or earlier checkout. Sheesh. The world is not black and white - it's not "your way" and the "wrong way".

[toedtoes]

Soundguy your arguments are getting weaker and weaker every time. The truth is YOU want a later checkout so you are making up generalities to justify that what you want is the only reasonable solution.

When someone points out a flaw in your argument (such as boy scouts being able to leave earlier with no problem), you pooh-pooh it as ridiculous.

The truth is there is no problem with the current checkout times at places. If there was, they would have made changes over the years to ensure folks could manage to get packed up in time.

Just because you WANT to kick back and relax on your last day doesn't mean you can't easily be packed up and gone by checkout - it just means you don't WANT to pack up and leave. So pay another day and take your time.

[jfkmk]

BadgerMcAdams wrote:
What is with the part about "No Alcohol allowed" etc, etc...

Is it a dry county/province or some such? Not that I drag a keg along with me on my camping excursions, but an ice cold one at night with my pipe is a very nice ending to a good day camping...or a bad day camping even.

I agree. I've just never heard of a bad day camping!:D

[Trekkar]

drsteve wrote:

Trekkar wrote:

drsteve wrote:
Here in Michigan the state parks all are 11AM checkout, 1PM check in. Some parks have no-alcohol rules, but they operate on the wink and a nod system. The only people I have ever seen getting busted for alcohol by the rangers are the ones making noise and causing a disturbance.

The online registration site FAQ shows Michigan State Parks check in at 3 p.m., and check out time at 1 p.m.

That's what it listed in Muskegon State ParK when I stayed earlier this month.

It sure does... I stand corrected. I wonder when they changed it?

I don't know. I remember it being earlier some years ago, but I haven't been to a SP for a few years now.

[Lantley]

Fizz wrote:
Never seen such a disorganized bunch openly say they can't get it together on pack-up day.

It's simple:
The night before you pack away everything you won't use the next morning.
Toys, canoes, bicycles are all packed away.
Simple breakfast, lunch, catch your breath then go.

What you pack away the night before impacts the night before.
Do I shut down Saturday at 6:00 so that I can depart Sunday by 11:00?
There is merrit to putting things away early, however in order to leave swiftly it requires sacrificing part of the evening's activities the night before. I am not willing to give up Saturday night for the sake of Sunday morning.

[Mr_Mark1]

In the lower 48, it seems that the check-out time is 11:00 AM at most places that we have stayed and some offering 12:00 noon.

At the Meteor Crater RV park near Winslow, AZ, has a 1:00 PM check-out so that the RV'ers can go down the road to see the 'Meteor Crater' that happened 50,000 yrs. ago. Otherwise, I've never seen super early check-outs. We don't stay at public campgrounds so that is probably the reason. 😄

We would probably pay for an extra day if it was anything earlier than 11:00 AM. I get up early, but I enjoy my mornings drinking my coffee, watching the news and reading on my laptop. Being retired, the world moves at my pace. 😛

Safe travels,
MM.

[Fizz]

Never seen such a disorganized bunch openly say they can't get it together on pack-up day.

It's simple:
The night before you pack away everything you won't use the next morning.
Toys, canoes, bicycles are all packed away.
Simple breakfast, lunch, catch your breath then go.

[drsteve]

SoundGuy wrote:

toedtoes wrote:
Oh, and here is the first response to my question on the tent camping forum:

8am would be too early for me
scout camping we generally have 30-50 people packed and ready to go by 10am
if 30-50 scouts and parents can be packed and out by 10am no eeason anyone else cant be ready by 10am
can always do activities after your packed and out

I don't see any commonality at all between teen scouts who are individually expected to be responsible for getting themselves organized by a certain time and are chaperoned by adults monitoring that they do so and a family with a couple of young kids camping in a tent or popup struggliing to meet such an unreasonably early check out deadline. Silly comparison. :R

Silly? Not at all... I've seen 30 or 40 scouts break camp and be on the road by 9AM, after cooking breakfast. Two adults and a couple of little kids should be able to get ready at least as quickly as a pack of scouts.