all breakers blowing

[pianotuna]

Hi,

Asking for a friend.

What would cause * all * the breakers to blow?

This is for someone in Florida in a 5th wheel.

[pianotuna]

joebedford wrote:
OK I'll bite: "chinese telegraph effect"?

A group of people start with a message. Person 1 tells person 2; person 2 tells person 3; person 3 tells person 4; and ect.

After about 6 or 7 whispered messages--the original message is lost.

[StirCrazy]

MrWizard wrote:
Somebody wired two cords together to do what one cord is supposed to be doing ! That's an electrical code violation, an a host of possible problems,

I admit it's not the right way to do things, but really you could use four separate wires as long as they all had proper insulation sheathing and were terminated properly with strain relief. do I like it, not really, as it would be a pain to deal with unless they taped them together and then it would be stiff, and besides it just looks wrong haha

[MrWizard]

Somebody wired two cords together to do what one cord is supposed to be doing ! That's an electrical code violation, an a host of possible problems, I understand emergency survival temporary rigging, but that never should been left in place,
This dogbone adapter, is this duplex male at house with Gerry rigged 50 amp cord. From there too 5th wheel ?
If So with the loads you mentioned it is likely an open neutral, burned inside one of the connections 50 amp service cord is required to be 6ga wire, from your description those cords are 10ga or less, I don't know what if anything is damage inside the TT, but your friend needs to replace the cord situation and reduce loads to 20 amps or less because a 15 amp duplex outlet is not going to safely handle that much load, it's possible the neutral is burned off at the duplex at the house ,
If the doggone is 50amp at the house and 15amp going to the trailer, again the load is too much for the cords and the 15 amp female on the dogbone adapter

[joebedford]

OK I'll bite: "chinese telegraph effect"?

[pianotuna]

joebedford,

I agree. But it might be the chinese telegraph effect. At least I'm hoping so.

Still no trips and it has been over 24 hours.

[joebedford]

BB_TX wrote:
Very hard to believe "all" breakers are tripping.

Yeah, I don't understand that either. Why would an overload on one circuit cause all breakers to trip? Something very wrong with that.

[pianotuna]

No further tripping which I think is good news.

[pianotuna]

LouLawrence,

The end result is that cleaning the air conditioner (fins?) has worked.

The breaker has been replaced, and there have been no trips for several hours.

The folks I'm trying to help don't listen too well. So what the mobile repair person really said is unknown.

I did ask for some voltage readings--but they ignored my request.

Thanks to everyone that offered advice.

[LouLawrence]

You can't adjust the freon in a roof top unit. It's sealed from the factory. A 5, 10 or 15? A 5, 10 or 15 what?
If the roof A/C is not functional, replace the roof A/C. This 5,10,15 thing leaves me questioning the competency of the service person.

[time2roll]

I recommend a new upper unit for the air conditioning. Most are too old to fix.

[pianotuna]

time2roll wrote:
Need a pro to set this right. Stop the monkey business before someone is injured or dead.

I agree.

mobile repairman believes air conditioner is low on freon (or what ever is used now)

He is using some measurement that suggests a "5". After cleaning that is now a "10", but it should be a "15".

No further reports at this time--but I guess I'll hear if the breaker trips again.

[time2roll]

Need a pro to set this right. Stop the monkey business before someone is injured or dead.

[pianotuna]

Hi,

I'm well over 1000 miles from these folks--so I can't do any hands on.

They have called a mobile repairman who is there right now.

[LouLawrence]

A 50 amp coach would be wired with 4 wires, not 3. 2 hots a neutral and a ground. Can't imagine what you are trying to describe as any kind of 50 amp much less anything that isn't ready to kill someone or burn down the coach.
It certainly can't get use of the 100 amps available with your 3 wire description. At the house end of this connection is he simply plugged into a 15 amp circuit?