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CKNSLS wrote:
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
OK I'll see how many peps I can upset here. At $49,000 IMO note that IMO anyone that buys a 1500 is swimming in the shallow end of the gen pool, IMO. You can get a real truck 2500 for that price break and not have to worry about payload. But then again that is just my opinion your my be different.
Don
SOME OF US DO NOT LIKE THE RIDE OF THE HEAVIER TRUCKS!!! IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND?????
LMAO really all caps?!?! The ride in a 2500 is as good as a 1500 if you drop the tire pressure down when empty. But that must be hard to understand...right? I might add that my 2500 gets better mileage then your 1500 so Nha-Nha-Nha-Boo-Boo.
DonMike Up wrote:
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
OK I'll see how many peps I can upset here. At $49,000 IMO note that IMO anyone that buys a 1500 is swimming in the shallow end of the gen pool, IMO. You can get a real truck 2500 for that price break and not have to worry about payload. But then again that is just my opinion your my be different.
Don
With my rebates, discounts and plans, you should be looking at a MAX of $37,000 for those luxury models. My XLT was many MANY thousands less than that.
The same with a 2500, noticed that the links you posted are for fully loaded lux models not the XLT or XL models. Still would never pay that kind of money on a 1500 when you can get a 2500 for a few thousand more and have three times the truck. But that is just my opinion.
DonPerrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
OK I'll see how many peps I can upset here. At $49,000 IMO note that IMO anyone that buys a 1500 is swimming in the shallow end of the gen pool, IMO. You can get a real truck 2500 for that price break and not have to worry about payload. But then again that is just my opinion your my be different.
Don
SOME OF US DO NOT LIKE THE RIDE OF THE HEAVIER TRUCKS!!! IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND?????Kevin O. wrote:
For people using a truck as a daily driver and towing a 6-9000lb travel trailer during the summer months the F150HD the perfect choice. when not towing you will average 19-20+ mpg, Your F250 with 6.2L cant come close to those mpg #'s...
No, but your F250 diesel will. My F250 6.7L is my daily driver, 20-22 mpg is my normal commute 38 miles one way through Houston.
I'm glad to see some small block diesels hit the 1/2 ton market though, even if it is a Dodge. ;)Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
OK I'll see how many peps I can upset here. At $49,000 IMO note that IMO anyone that buys a 1500 is swimming in the shallow end of the gen pool, IMO. You can get a real truck 2500 for that price break and not have to worry about payload. But then again that is just my opinion your my be different.
Don
With my rebates, discounts and plans, you should be looking at a MAX of $37,000 for those luxury models. My XLT was many MANY thousands less than that.- OK I'll see how many peps I can upset here. At $49,000 IMO note that IMO anyone that buys a 1500 is swimming in the shallow end of the gen pool, IMO. You can get a real truck 2500 for that price break and not have to worry about payload. But then again that is just my opinion your my be different.
Don bimbert84 wrote:
ryanb-72 wrote:
According to the Ram website, a 2013 Ram 1500 4x4 Crew Cab has a GVWR of 6800#. The F-150 in my sig has a GVWR of 7700#, and the HD option kicks it up to 8200#.I have been trying to compare the F-150 to the Ram and as I see it the payload capacities are very close.
That's a huge difference, and was the reason I opted for the Ford. I like the Ram better in most other aspects, but it just doesn't have the payload.
-- Rob
V8 Rams weigh the same as Ford F150s yet have 550 lbs less GVWR!!!!
These all are 2009 trucks. They are the same as 2013 models except for Dodges new 8 transmission and power steering mechanism. The 5/6 speed auto in the 2013 is the same offered for early 2013 but they now call it a 6 speed since you can "MANUALLY" select the 6 gears. Automatic only uses 5 gears. Of course in 2011 Ford changed engines and power steering mechanism. In 2009 - 2011 all Crew Cab 4WD Short bed 5.4L, 5.0L and Ecoboost trucks had a 7200 GVWR. In 2012, as is mine, Ford bumped up the 5.0L GVWR to 7350 lbs for an additional 150 lbs. Unfortunately the Ecoboost trucks stay at the lower 7200 lbs unless you get the Max Tow option (7650 lbs) or the HD payload option (8200 lbs).
You can't go by the factory brochure payload specs or truck weights as options add a lot. My 2010 F150 with 7200 Lbs GVWR had a 1510 lbs payload but when I got it, it was only 1430 lbs according to the tread act sticker due to options. Then the bedliner and tonneau cover will take even more away from that. With my 2010, Bedrug was 20lbs and Solid Fold Cover was 50 lbs. So I had 1360 lbs payload for adding gear, people, and hitch weight.
My 2012 had a factory brochure payload of 1700 lbs . My tread act sticker states 1582 lbs. My bedrug bedliner is 20 lbs and my light soft tonneau cover is about 15 lbs. So I have 1547 lbs of usable payload.
Look where ram starts, "960 lbs". My wifes 2012 Ford Escape 4WD has 1030 lbs and it's a subcompact!!!
That's why I don't own a RAM.
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he most ideal unit in that setting is a hybrid. I get 16 to 24 mpg with a 4 banger. Diesel half ton could replace our commuter and the 2500 sub. ryanb-72 wrote:
I have been trying to compare the F-150 to the Ram and as I see it the payload capacities are very close. I compared the supercrew 4x4 ecoboost to the Ram big horn edition which had the 5.7 Hemi (as the diesel specs aren't out) and there is about a 200 lb difference. Maybe I am missing something but that just doesn't seem like enough to be a huge game changer?
200 pounds more payload sounds about right for the regular F-150. But Ford and GM half tons offer packages that bump that up by 300-450 pounds for an otherwise same configuration/optioned truck. Ford offers another package which adds at least another 450 pounds.ryanb-72 wrote:
According to the Ram website, a 2013 Ram 1500 4x4 Crew Cab has a GVWR of 6800#. The F-150 in my sig has a GVWR of 7700#, and the HD option kicks it up to 8200#.I have been trying to compare the F-150 to the Ram and as I see it the payload capacities are very close.
That's a huge difference, and was the reason I opted for the Ford. I like the Ram better in most other aspects, but it just doesn't have the payload.
-- Rob
