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horseylady
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Dec 21, 2013

Seat in my truck is killing me

Our 2006 Dodge dually 4x4 has very stiff suspension. The ride is better when towing fifth wheel but still very rough. Had shocks replaced, new tires, which help a little. Planning to put more air in air bags but may make it worse and raise truck too high for trailer.

Has anyone found a way to soften the ride. I have bought several expensive cushions but I need something for the entire seat, thick and cushiony, maybe with air. I have lower back problems anyway but, unless I'm driving, it kills me.

We are getting ready to go from coast to coast in a few weeks and usually can only do two days in a row because of my back.

We bought this truck new and it only has 80,000 miles, can pull anything, no problems, and great fuel mileage and, at our age, we are not interested in truck payments for a new truck.

Thanks,
Pam
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  • restlesswind's avatar
    restlesswind
    Explorer
    Dec 23, 2013
    jims1 wrote:
    Remove the seat from the truck, Flip over, undo the metal wire rack- cut the hog ring holders and remove foam. Add whatever foam you would like, I used a piece of high density oopen cell then a piece of memory type. Reassemble with new hog rings. Its easy to do, takes less than 15 minutes to remove and open up. The other idea is to find 2004 seats in the same color and bolt them in. Much more comfortable. $generations seats fir as well depending on the model.

    I did this about 80k ago.

    The seats in my 2004.5 were killers,untill I modified them as above.
    100% improvement!
    Some us have butts that are just not shaped to fit those "bucket type"
    seats:D
  • Cummins12V98's avatar
    Cummins12V98
    Explorer III
    Dec 23, 2013
    kennethwooster wrote:
    DW and myself are short. We had a 2001 Dodge Cummingsthat was a great farm truck but horrible to travel in. Very uncomfortable to travel in. We started rving and DW was complaining. A friend told us to try Ford. Soon as DW set in one she said this is it. Didnt take me long to agree. The new King Ranch really sets nice. I said all that to say you probably need a different sear installed or try to rebuild the current one. Not sure about current Dodge but surely they have improved the seats. Anyway it took a Ford to solve our problems.


    Huge difference in ride between any 01 and any 11.

    I cash tell you that our Ford friends that have ridden in our RAM 11 Longhorn Dually all commented on how good ours rode and how comfortable the seats were.
  • kennethwooster's avatar
    kennethwooster
    Explorer
    Dec 23, 2013
    DW and myself are short. We had a 2001 Dodge Cummingsthat was a great farm truck but horrible to travel in. Very uncomfortable to travel in. We started rving and DW was complaining. A friend told us to try Ford. Soon as DW set in one she said this is it. Didnt take me long to agree. The new King Ranch really sets nice. I said all that to say you probably need a different sear installed or try to rebuild the current one. Not sure about current Dodge but surely they have improved the seats. Anyway it took a Ford to solve our problems.
  • NJRVer's avatar
    NJRVer
    Explorer
    Dec 23, 2013
    You don't say which trim level you have.
    Having both owned HD Dodge and have a bad back, I can say there is a huge difference between having a work truck bench and a Laramie power bucket.
    Being able to fine tune the seat position will go a lonnnngggg way to increasing comfort.
  • jims1's avatar
    jims1
    Explorer
    Dec 22, 2013
    Remove the seat from the truck, Flip over, undo the metal wire rack- cut the hog ring holders and remove foam. Add whatever foam you would like, I used a piece of high density oopen cell then a piece of memory type. Reassemble with new hog rings. Its easy to do, takes less than 15 minutes to remove and open up. The other idea is to find 2004 seats in the same color and bolt them in. Much more comfortable. $generations seats fir as well depending on the model.

    I did this about 80k ago.
  • transamz9's avatar
    transamz9
    Explorer
    Dec 22, 2013
    racer4 wrote:
    horseylady,

    There are some upgrades available. They are expensive, but way less than buying a different truck.

    You can look into R4Tech, Auto Flex and Kelderman Air Ride.

    R4Tech link

    Auto Flex Air Ride Suspension

    Kelderman Air Ride 2003-2009 Dodge 2500/3500 2-Stage Rear Air Suspension

    Kelderman Air Ride 2003+ Dodge 2500/3500 2-Stage Front Air Suspension

    When I bought the Kelderman Air Ride for my truck I did not know it would lower the rear of the truck and reduce the rear suspension travel by about 2 1/2". I worked around that with a 2" lift block and pinion angle shims.

    Kelderman has since changed their website and now reference "Stock Height". If you consider Kelderman, I suggest you verify if it will significantly change the available suspension travel.

    The other two choices above became available after I bought.

    The new Dodge trucks now have a factory option for air ride suspension upgrades. You can accomplish something similar with available aftermarket upgrades.

    No more back pain for me after driving the truck.

    Good luck.


    I have this one and no loss of suspension travel.

    AirBagit towing kit.
  • JustLabs's avatar
    JustLabs
    Explorer
    Dec 22, 2013
    oilslick wrote:
    When I saw the thread title I knew you were driving a Dodge, they are notorious for thin foam cushioning, Many peel back the top cover and install additional denser foam at not that much cost to do.


    I did this mod to my '07 Ram. Takes about 10 minutes per side. It made a huge difference in seating comfort.

    Seat fix
  • racer4's avatar
    racer4
    Explorer
    Dec 22, 2013
    horseylady,

    There are some upgrades available. They are expensive, but way less than buying a different truck.

    You can look into R4Tech, Auto Flex and Kelderman Air Ride.

    R4Tech link

    Auto Flex Air Ride Suspension

    Kelderman Air Ride 2003-2009 Dodge 2500/3500 2-Stage Rear Air Suspension

    Kelderman Air Ride 2003+ Dodge 2500/3500 2-Stage Front Air Suspension

    When I bought the Kelderman Air Ride for my truck I did not know it would lower the rear of the truck and reduce the rear suspension travel by about 2 1/2". I worked around that with a 2" lift block and pinion angle shims.

    Kelderman has since changed their website and now reference "Stock Height". If you consider Kelderman, I suggest you verify if it will significantly change the available suspension travel.

    The other two choices above became available after I bought.

    The new Dodge trucks now have a factory option for air ride suspension upgrades. You can accomplish something similar with available aftermarket upgrades.

    No more back pain for me after driving the truck.

    Good luck.
  • Cummins12V98's avatar
    Cummins12V98
    Explorer III
    Dec 22, 2013
    The 4th gen RAM's ride really good for a 1 ton. Like I said earlier add Bilstiens and air bags along with PROPER tire inflation and you will enjoy the ride!
  • FishOnOne's avatar
    FishOnOne
    Nomad
    Dec 22, 2013
    A guy at work owned a RAM for a short period who would tow oil field equipment on weekends noticed his truck would squat more than his previous Chevy. Upon further inspection we noticed the previous owner removed the overload spring to make the ride smoother.

    Good luck...

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Has anyone found a way to soften the ride. I have bought several expensive cushions but I need something for the entire seat, thick and cushiony, maybe with air. I have lower back problems anyway but, unless I'm driving, it kills me.

We are getting ready to go from coast to coast in a few weeks and usually can only do two days in a row because of my back.

We bought this truck new and it only has 80,000 miles, can pull anything, no problems, and great fuel mileage and, at our age, we are not interested in truck payments for a new truck.

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Has anyone found a way to soften the ride. I have bought several expensive cushions but I need something for the entire seat, thick and cushiony, maybe with air. I have lower back problems anyway but, unless I'm driving, it kills me.

We are getting ready to go from coast to coast in a few weeks and usually can only do two days in a row because of my back.

We bought this truck new and it only has 80,000 miles, can pull anything, no problems, and great fuel mileage and, at our age, we are not interested in truck payments for a new truck.

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jims1 wrote:
Remove the seat from the truck, Flip over, undo the metal wire rack- cut the hog ring holders and remove foam. Add whatever foam you would like, I used a piece of high density oopen cell then a piece of memory type. Reassemble with new hog rings. Its easy to do, takes less than 15 minutes to remove and open up. The other idea is to find 2004 seats in the same color and bolt them in. Much more comfortable. $generations seats fir as well depending on the model.

I did this about 80k ago.

The seats in my 2004.5 were killers,untill I modified them as above.
100% improvement!
Some us have butts that are just not shaped to fit those \"bucket type\"
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kennethwooster wrote:
DW and myself are short. We had a 2001 Dodge Cummingsthat was a great farm truck but horrible to travel in. Very uncomfortable to travel in. We started rving and DW was complaining. A friend told us to try Ford. Soon as DW set in one she said this is it. Didnt take me long to agree. The new King Ranch really sets nice. I said all that to say you probably need a different sear installed or try to rebuild the current one. Not sure about current Dodge but surely they have improved the seats. Anyway it took a Ford to solve our problems.


Huge difference in ride between any 01 and any 11.

I cash tell you that our Ford friends that have ridden in our RAM 11 Longhorn Dually all commented on how good ours rode and how comfortable the seats were.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-23T07:55:18.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-23T07:55:18.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":607},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:836383/message:836406","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:356400":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:356400","uid":356400,"login":"kennethwooster","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-11-21T10:26:48.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:356400"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:836405":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:836405","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:836405":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:356400"},"id":"message:836405","revisionNum":1,"uid":836405,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:836383"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:836383"},"subject":"Re: Seat in my truck is killing me","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:836405"},"body":"DW and myself are short. We had a 2001 Dodge Cummingsthat was a great farm truck but horrible to travel in. Very uncomfortable to travel in. We started rving and DW was complaining. A friend told us to try Ford. Soon as DW set in one she said this is it. Didnt take me long to agree. The new King Ranch really sets nice. I said all that to say you probably need a different sear installed or try to rebuild the current one. Not sure about current Dodge but surely they have improved the seats. Anyway it took a Ford to solve our problems.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-23T05:43:03.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-23T05:43:03.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":607},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:836383/message:836405","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:371526":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:371526","uid":371526,"login":"NJRVer","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-05-16T07:50:07.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:371526"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:836404":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:836404","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:836404":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:371526"},"id":"message:836404","revisionNum":1,"uid":836404,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:836383"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:836383"},"subject":"Re: Seat in my truck is killing me","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:836404"},"body":"You don't say which trim level you have.
Having both owned HD Dodge and have a bad back, I can say there is a huge difference between having a work truck bench and a Laramie power bucket.
Being able to fine tune the seat position will go a lonnnngggg way to increasing comfort.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-23T04:20:40.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-23T04:20:40.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":606},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:836383/message:836404","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:249156":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:249156","uid":249156,"login":"jims1","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2010-09-19T18:54:15.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:249156"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:836403":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:836403","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:836403":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:249156"},"id":"message:836403","revisionNum":1,"uid":836403,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:836383"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:836383"},"subject":"Re: Seat in my truck is killing me","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:836403"},"body":"Remove the seat from the truck, Flip over, undo the metal wire rack- cut the hog ring holders and remove foam. Add whatever foam you would like, I used a piece of high density oopen cell then a piece of memory type. Reassemble with new hog rings. Its easy to do, takes less than 15 minutes to remove and open up. The other idea is to find 2004 seats in the same color and bolt them in. Much more comfortable. $generations seats fir as well depending on the model.

I did this about 80k ago.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-12-22T11:52:33.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-12-22T11:52:33.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":606},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:836383/message:836403","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:31646":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:31646","uid":31646,"login":"transamz9","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2010-07-27T03:13:27.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:31646"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:836402":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:836402","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:836402":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:31646"},"id":"message:836402","revisionNum":1,"uid":836402,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:836383"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:836383"},"subject":"Re: Seat in my truck is killing me","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:836402"},"body":"
racer4 wrote:
horseylady,

There are some upgrades available. They are expensive, but way less than buying a different truck.

You can look into R4Tech, Auto Flex and Kelderman Air Ride.

R4Tech link

Auto Flex Air Ride Suspension

Kelderman Air Ride 2003-2009 Dodge 2500/3500 2-Stage Rear Air Suspension

Kelderman Air Ride 2003+ Dodge 2500/3500 2-Stage Front Air Suspension

When I bought the Kelderman Air Ride for my truck I did not know it would lower the rear of the truck and reduce the rear suspension travel by about 2 1/2\". I worked around that with a 2\" lift block and pinion angle shims.

Kelderman has since changed their website and now reference \"Stock Height\". If you consider Kelderman, I suggest you verify if it will significantly change the available suspension travel.

The other two choices above became available after I bought.

The new Dodge trucks now have a factory option for air ride suspension upgrades. You can accomplish something similar with available aftermarket upgrades.

No more back pain for me after driving the truck.

Good luck.


I have this one and no loss of suspension travel.

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oilslick wrote:
When I saw the thread title I knew you were driving a Dodge, they are notorious for thin foam cushioning, Many peel back the top cover and install additional denser foam at not that much cost to do.


I did this mod to my '07 Ram. Takes about 10 minutes per side. It made a huge difference in seating comfort.

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There are some upgrades available. They are expensive, but way less than buying a different truck.

You can look into R4Tech, Auto Flex and Kelderman Air Ride.

R4Tech link

Auto Flex Air Ride Suspension

Kelderman Air Ride 2003-2009 Dodge 2500/3500 2-Stage Rear Air Suspension

Kelderman Air Ride 2003+ Dodge 2500/3500 2-Stage Front Air Suspension

When I bought the Kelderman Air Ride for my truck I did not know it would lower the rear of the truck and reduce the rear suspension travel by about 2 1/2\". I worked around that with a 2\" lift block and pinion angle shims.

Kelderman has since changed their website and now reference \"Stock Height\". If you consider Kelderman, I suggest you verify if it will significantly change the available suspension travel.

The other two choices above became available after I bought.

The new Dodge trucks now have a factory option for air ride suspension upgrades. You can accomplish something similar with available aftermarket upgrades.

No more back pain for me after driving the truck.

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