Taking a gun....worth hassle?

Floridastorm wrote:

fulltimedaniel wrote:

Crowe wrote:
LOL on the popcorn!

For those too paranoid to leave the house without a firearm (anyone who carries for defense actually), just make sure you have a good lawyer on retainer. Have their office phone, cell phone, home phone, health club phone, country club phone, and as many relatives as you can get phone numbers. You will need to get a hold of an attorney post-haste should you shoot someone. And you need to ask yourself a few questions: Can I determine what is a true threat? Am I ready for the legal repercussions? Can I emotionally handle taking another's life?

If you can't answer YES! to all three questions, then leave your firearm at home.

YES! X2

My personal feeling is that those that feel this need to carry a firearm are people who live in abject terror of their own shadow. I have been in every state in this union and lived in cities such as Washington DC and Atlanta. I have been to War zones like the one in Sri Lanka when the Tamil Tigers were fighting, Nigeria, Spanish Sahara I have never felt the need for a gun.

I have had quite a few automatic weapons pointed at me in many places around the world I didnt defuse those situations by having a gun.

This Wild West mentality is uncivilized and harmful to a peaceful society.

But there is no reasoning with the folks that feel the need to carry a gun everywhere....they are frozen in a time warp of movie-land westerns and mired in fear.

Here is the real quote from Franklin Roosevelt's First Inaugural:

"So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."

Well, first place let me say that you are a very condescending individual. Congratulations, you just ridiculed millions of gun owners in the US who do feel the need to have a weapon for self defense.According to the various respected studies, that have been done over the years, from 2.5 million to 4.7 million DGU's have been recorded per year. DGU means Defensive Gun Use. And, these are the gun uses for defense that have been reported. How many incidents are never reported? I guess that those millions of people are frozen in a time warp and are in abject terror of their own shadows. How many of these people would have been dead or maimed if they did not have a means to defend themselves? Every day in this country there are thousands of crimes being committed. Just because you yourself have never been involved does not make the threat any less serious. I, too, have worked in and lived in a multitude of countries over a lifetime. And, yes, I have never had the need to defend myself with violence. However, possibly I was just lucky and did not become one of the vast statistics. It has been said that no man is fearful of death until he confronts it head on. I just feel that you are the type of person who buries his head in the sand and hopes that someone doesn't come along and screw him.

Dgu is about 75,000 a year.

The old saying is:
"I'm not scared, because I'm prepared"

Crowe wrote:
Slow down Floridastorm. No one is condescending to you-they are merely expressing a difference of opinion. No one is disputing the fact that bad things happen just merely expressing concern if you will that some start out with that "I've got a gun and I'm not afraid to use it" chip on their shoulder. Take those studies with a BIG grain of salt. I am a long time gun owner, instructor, life member of the NRA and long-time political activist. Because someone doesn't feel the need to be armed 7x24 doesn't mean they have their head buried in the sand. It just means they don't leave the house expecting to be mugged on every corner. You'd do well to take a step back and breathe. The aggressive attitude is part of why so many honest gun owners have a bad rap. The OP asked for opinions. We all have them and they all stink the same.

Very nicely said. This post shows a courtesy to both sides of the discussion.

Not every gun owner is afraid of his/her own shadow;

Not every non-gun person is burying their head in the sand.

The OP was asking about the process of carrying a type of gun across the Canadian border and back during a trip to Alaska from the lower fifty.

It's not about who's opinion towards guns is appropriate or better or whatever.

Slow down Floridastorm. No one is condescending to you-they are merely expressing a difference of opinion. No one is disputing the fact that bad things happen just merely expressing concern if you will that some start out with that "I've got a gun and I'm not afraid to use it" chip on their shoulder. Take those studies with a BIG grain of salt. I am a long time gun owner, instructor, life member of the NRA and long-time political activist. Because someone doesn't feel the need to be armed 7x24 doesn't mean they have their head buried in the sand. It just means they don't leave the house expecting to be mugged on every corner. You'd do well to take a step back and breathe. The aggressive attitude is part of why so many honest gun owners have a bad rap. The OP asked for opinions. We all have them and they all stink the same.

Easy choice for me. I have never owned a gun and probably never will.

For those that own a gun it should not be a hassle. It is what you do.

fulltimedaniel wrote:

Crowe wrote:
LOL on the popcorn!

For those too paranoid to leave the house without a firearm (anyone who carries for defense actually), just make sure you have a good lawyer on retainer. Have their office phone, cell phone, home phone, health club phone, country club phone, and as many relatives as you can get phone numbers. You will need to get a hold of an attorney post-haste should you shoot someone. And you need to ask yourself a few questions: Can I determine what is a true threat? Am I ready for the legal repercussions? Can I emotionally handle taking another's life?

If you can't answer YES! to all three questions, then leave your firearm at home.

YES! X2

My personal feeling is that those that feel this need to carry a firearm are people who live in abject terror of their own shadow. I have been in every state in this union and lived in cities such as Washington DC and Atlanta. I have been to War zones like the one in Sri Lanka when the Tamil Tigers were fighting, Nigeria, Spanish Sahara I have never felt the need for a gun.

I have had quite a few automatic weapons pointed at me in many places around the world I didnt defuse those situations by having a gun.

This Wild West mentality is uncivilized and harmful to a peaceful society.

But there is no reasoning with the folks that feel the need to carry a gun everywhere....they are frozen in a time warp of movie-land westerns and mired in fear.

Here is the real quote from Franklin Roosevelt's First Inaugural:

"So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."

Well, first place let me say that you are a very condescending individual. Congratulations, you just ridiculed millions of gun owners in the US who do feel the need to have a weapon for self defense.According to the various respected studies, that have been done over the years, from 2.5 million to 4.7 million DGU's have been recorded per year. DGU means Defensive Gun Use. And, these are the gun uses for defense that have been reported. How many incidents are never reported? I guess that those millions of people are frozen in a time warp and are in abject terror of their own shadows. How many of these people would have been dead or maimed if they did not have a means to defend themselves? Every day in this country there are thousands of crimes being committed. Just because you yourself have never been involved does not make the threat any less serious. I, too, have worked in and lived in a multitude of countries over a lifetime. And, yes, I have never had the need to defend myself with violence. However, possibly I was just lucky and did not become one of the vast statistics. It has been said that no man is fearful of death until he confronts it head on. I just feel that you are the type of person who buries his head in the sand and hopes that someone doesn't come along and screw him.

This thread has still been one of the better discussed topics on this subject and everyone remained "civil" in the process! Great discussion! I applaud everyone here!

Crowe wrote:
LOL on the popcorn!

For those too paranoid to leave the house without a firearm (anyone who carries for defense actually), just make sure you have a good lawyer on retainer. Have their office phone, cell phone, home phone, health club phone, country club phone, and as many relatives as you can get phone numbers. You will need to get a hold of an attorney post-haste should you shoot someone. And you need to ask yourself a few questions: Can I determine what is a true threat? Am I ready for the legal repercussions? Can I emotionally handle taking another's life?

If you can't answer YES! to all three questions, then leave your firearm at home.

YES! X2

My personal feeling is that those that feel this need to carry a firearm are people who live in abject terror of their own shadow. I have been in every state in this union and lived in cities such as Washington DC and Atlanta. I have been to War zones like the one in Sri Lanka when the Tamil Tigers were fighting, Nigeria, Spanish Sahara I have never felt the need for a gun.

I have had quite a few automatic weapons pointed at me in many places around the world I didnt defuse those situations by having a gun.

This Wild West mentality is uncivilized and harmful to a peaceful society.

But there is no reasoning with the folks that feel the need to carry a gun everywhere....they are frozen in a time warp of movie-land westerns and mired in fear.

Here is the real quote from Franklin Roosevelt's First Inaugural:

"So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."

Take a gun or don't take a gun? That's nothing but puhleeeze, don't bring up "Chevy or Ford!"

I will make one suggestion. If you carry a bolt action, pull the bolt and carry it in the bottom of your pack when you are away from the camper without the gun/rifle (a few bolt action shotguns out there). You cannot stop a thief when you are gone, but with the cost of a new bolt, barrel set back and rechamber, you can destroy the economic value of the rifle to the thief. This is also a good safety measure around children.

If you carry the rifle for bear, please practice a lot, because a wounded animal is dangerous to others. In a lifetime of hunting I have only shot once in self defense against an animal, and that was in Africa where they come big and fast. I once thought I would have to kill a black bear sow with a cub, then I remembered that they often have twins and sure enough I was between junior (probably a boy) and mom. So think and stay out of trouble, don't push animals. Also pray that you never need to try the spray or a gun, it usually means you made an error of judgement.