New to the forums. So we got a good deal on a diesel 07 Ram 2500 and now we are tring to decide on the rest of the rig.Im looking at a fleetwood savanna 35 5w. Triple slide gvwr 13600lb, truck weighs 7060 with fuel and 2 ppl. 4200 frt, 2860 rear. Would this be a safe and legal rig?

Do you know the GVWR and RAWR of the truck?

Door tag says gvwr 9000lbs, gawr frt 4750, rear 6010, internet says gcwr 20,000lbs.

With the truck weight subtracted from the 9,000 GVWR, you will have just short of 2,000 lbs to add. The hitch will be about 200 lbs. You will go over the GVWR of the truck. You will be close on the RAWR, but won't know for sure without weighing.If you take 20% of the FW GVWR, it will give you an idea on pin wt. If you add 200 lbs for the hitch, you will be close to 3,000 lbs added to the rear axle wt.Your truck will likely work for this trailer, but getting a smaller/lighter trailer, should be considered.Jerry

Is it the 20% that puts me over the 9000lb gvwr?

NorthwestBound wrote:Is it the 20% that puts me over the 9000lb gvwr?Yes, if the loaded to camp FW, only weighed 10,000 lbs, you would be at your GVWR, since you only have 1,940 available payload left. You still have to take away 200 lbs more for the hitch, so 1,740 left for pin wt.Many people tow over their trucks GVWR. You will have to decide if you want to do this. Is it safe? If not more than a few hundred lbs over, probably. You do not want to go over your RAWR!Jerry

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dapperdan
Explorer
Oct 25, 2015
Allworth wrote:
13,600 on a 2500 is probably right at the upper limits of payload and rear axle.

That was why we traded up to a 3500 SRW diesel after the first couple of trips with the Titanium (13,800 GVWR) on a 2500 Ram diesel. Just not enough truck to feel comfortable and the scales were telling a sad story on the weights.

By the way, trading to a long bed crew cab, even though it takes a football field to U-turn, made a big difference in long day's comfort on the road.

I agree, you'd be close to your max limit just watch yourself. I think you're going to find out down the road that you'll find yourself "craving" a larger truck because that first RV is going to get "old" and a "new" (bigger) one will be wanted. :) forcing you into a larger truck. Just say'n.

Gotta start someplace tho.......

Dan
Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Oct 25, 2015
2007 2500 should be looking at a 12K GVWR 5th wheel ..........not a 14K one

I tow a 14K 5v with my 2007 3500 and am right at rear tire max load ratings, close to RAWR and OVER on trucks GVWR (10,100)

That 2500 only has a 9000# GVWR and a 6010# RAWR......12K 5vr will be better match
Allworth
Explorer II
Oct 25, 2015
13,600 on a 2500 is probably right at the upper limits of payload and rear axle.

That was why we traded up to a 3500 SRW diesel after the first couple of trips with the Titanium (13,800 GVWR) on a 2500 Ram diesel. Just not enough truck to feel comfortable and the scales were telling a sad story on the weights.

By the way, trading to a long bed crew cab, even though it takes a football field to U-turn, made a big difference in long day's comfort on the road.
2oldman
Explorer II
Oct 25, 2015
GCWR: 7060+13600=20,660

With those numbers I'd be cautious with that 5er.
boshog
Explorer
Oct 25, 2015
NorthwestBound wrote:
Door tag says gvwr 9000lbs, gawr frt 4750, rear 6010, internet says gcwr 20,000lbs.

Look for a tag like this on the driver's door jam, the number circled in red is the maximum amount of weight that can be added to the vehicle. This number includes all fluids.
MFL
Nomad II
Oct 25, 2015
NorthwestBound wrote:
So, a 16k hitch might be overkill as well?

Not really, a 16K hitch is about where you start to see better quality. Many hitches 15K and below are considered entry level.

There are many good hitches, but the 16K B&W Patriot, is one of the better ones, for the dollars spent. Look at E-trailer, or Tweety's, for info, and good price.

Jerry
NorthwestBound
Explorer
Oct 25, 2015
So, a 16k hitch might be overkill as well?
NorthwestBound
Explorer
Oct 25, 2015
I drive a big truck for a living so got that covered, and, when i registered the puckup i also splurged for the 24klb plates.
WyoTraveler
Explorer
Oct 25, 2015
Also depending on the state you may need a Class A RV license to tow over 10,000 pounds to be totally legal.
NorthwestBound
Explorer
Oct 25, 2015
Got it, thanks very much.

Is there an online resource listing trailer weight by make model?