FMCA to allow Towables Owners to join

dons2346 wrote:

Bill.Satellite wrote:
That part is really not a problem since FMCA is not yet allowing towable owners to join. They will open up the membership AFTER the definitions of what is and what is not is worked out.
It just like electing a new President. He did not get to rule the Country the day after the vote was completed.

Bill, this is not correct. As soon as the documents are filed with the state, "recreation vehicles" will be allowed to join. This filing is happening now and the expected date that they will be joining is December 6th.

The official definition of what a "recreation vehicle" is won't happen until the July Governing Board meeting in Gillette.

The president has no say as to what, or when this is completed.

This comes from the FMCA forum.

Per FMCA's governing documents, the paperwork is being filed to make the vote official. Until the paperwork is finalized, we cannot accept membership applications from owners of self-contained RVs.

dons2346 wrote:

Bill.Satellite wrote:
That part is really not a problem since FMCA is not yet allowing towable owners to join. They will open up the membership AFTER the definitions of what is and what is not is worked out.
It just like electing a new President. He did not get to rule the Country the day after the vote was completed.

Bill, this is not correct. As soon as the documents are filed with the state, "recreation vehicles" will be allowed to join. This filing is happening now and the expected date that they will be joining is December 6th.

The official definition of what a "recreation vehicle" is won't happen until the July Governing Board meeting in Gillette.

The president has no say as to what, or when this is completed.

I'm curious......no dog in this one but what would need to filed with a state? Is their a state that regulates RV clubs?

Bill.Satellite wrote:
That part is really not a problem since FMCA is not yet allowing towable owners to join. They will open up the membership AFTER the definitions of what is and what is not is worked out.
It just like electing a new President. He did not get to rule the Country the day after the vote was completed.

Bill, this is not correct. As soon as the documents are filed with the state, "recreation vehicles" will be allowed to join. This filing is happening now and the expected date that they will be joining is December 6th.

The official definition of what a "recreation vehicle" is won't happen until the July Governing Board meeting in Gillette.

The president has no say as to what, or when this is completed.

Who will we look down our noses at do you suppose? Campground Riffraff? How will we tell for heavens sake?

I did not find the savings to be that big of a deal when I had a dealer in TX install 4 new 12R 22.5 tires. You don't get any information up front as to costs either from Michelin or the dealer. They both tell you to register your CC, go to the dealer and have them installed and you will be billed by Michelin. The add-on charges from the dealer appears to have wiped out much of any saving being offered by Michelin and I don't believe that Michelin has any control over these charges.

If you go to the FMCA website and sort through the links you will find the exact price that you would pay for the Michelin or Continental tires with the FMCA Advantage discount. The only thing you have to add is installation and local sales tax. For my size, the savings is $78.71/tire.

2gypsies wrote:

Mile High wrote:

rgatijnet1 wrote:
Those that need Michelin tires will remain as members since the discount for the tires more than covers the cost of FMCA membership. :B

Ironically, that "discount" is available through the Michelin retailer most of the time.

On another forum I just read that the poster purchased the tires with the FMCA discount and he specifically said it was $150 discount for the total bill..... not for each tire. $150 discount can be had by many places. We bought our Michilins in Oregon with no sales tax at a discount.

The discount is more than $150.00 but I don't remember the details at the moment.
Problem is the Dealer we bought from swindled us out of the discount.
I heard the conversation with his asst. "We have to make our margin."
he is no longer on the FMCA list of Dealers. The over four hundred o my money he pocketed cost him a whole lot of RV business.
He still sells Michelins because, I didn't get around to sending details to Michelin.
Loves had a better price to begin with and new equipment and clean.
And..they would do the Michelin program.
We had to be in South Carolina, in three days, and they did could not have the tires we needed until the day after we left.

That part is really not a problem since FMCA is not yet allowing towable owners to join. They will open up the membership AFTER the definitions of what is and what is not is worked out.
It just like electing a new President. He did not get to rule the Country the day after the vote was completed.

RLS7201 wrote:

dons2346 wrote:

RLS7201 wrote:

azrving wrote:
Is a smiling truck camper owner allowed to join?

If your self contained. IE fresh water, waste tanks, cook, sleep, poop, bathe. Then yes, come join us please. If the FMCA will allow my 22 year old entry level Bounder, then they will allow most any thing. GRIN
OH! And thanks for the smile. It's your positive attitude that I want to see in the FMCA.


Richard
Webmaster MWPSchooners.com

At this point, anything that can be considered a "recreation vehicle" can join. If you have a boat, bicycle, motorcycle, seadoo, etc, you are eligible for membership. There is nothing and I mean NOTHINGwithin the newly approved documents that defines what a "recreation vehicle" is. The wording that is in the magazine about self contained, sleeping facilities, etc do not appear anywhere in the the documents. It is only some smoke screen until July when the wording can be put into the bylaws. The powers to be were in such a hurry to cram this down our throats, they forgot a very important step.The governing board has the authority to change the bylaws and that is what will happen. Until July, go ahead and join with your boat. If FMCA doesn't let you join, there is a lawsuit in the wings waiting.

Now, here is a little known fact:
The now past president was holding an area rally when a towable showed up. He went over and tild him he was not welcome and to leave. The treasurer refunded the rally fee. This is the same person that who had the brilliant idea to bring in "recreation vehicles"

OK, seeing how you have the document in hand. Please post the wording so all can see it. Other wise what you post is just rhetoric.
Also the FMCA President does not hold an area rally. That is organised by the area.

Richard

Open up your magazine (page 46 on the November edition) and read all of the documents that were voted on. You will see no such wording that defines what a "recreation vehicle" is defined as. The only definition that was "agreed" to is that " The term "recreation vehicle" as used herein, is defined as a self contained wheeled vehicle that includes permanently installed cooking, sleeping, and sanitary facilities". This agreement was not made in a formal meeting (ie the Governing Board meeting) and the entire governing board was not present when this discussion took place.

If you still question the validity of the definition, please call FMCA at 513-474-3622 and ask for Membership Services. Request a copy of the Governing Board minutes and read them. Anytime a motion as so stated, is made, it is recorded and the proposer of the motion is also noted. You will find no such motion in the minutes.

The Governing Board will rectify the problem with the definition at our meeting in July. Someone will stand up and make a motion to do whatever with the agreed definition. It will wind up either in the bylaws or in a Policy & Procedure, could be both.

Now to the area rally. Area rallys are done by an area who has a Area President. That person is in charge of the area and is the same person that sits on the executive board and their title there is Area Vice President. When the past national president was area president, that is when he asked the towable to leave. I said "the now past president" held a rally.

You might want to talk to Jerry and see if he was in attendance in Indy.

2gypsies wrote:
On another forum I just read that the poster purchased the tires with the FMCA discount and he specifically said it was $150 discount for the total bill..... not for each tire. $150 discount can be had by many places. We bought our Michilins in Oregon with no sales tax at a discount.

I suspect it is way more than that. I bought a set for my lowly C class using the FMCA Michelin Advantage pricing and the guy at the tire DISTRIBUTOR I got them from (largest tire distributor in the state of Georgia, with 8 warehouses) told me I was getting the tires for $10 each less than his cost from Michelin for them.

Charles