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- As I surf the interwebs for Palazzo pictures (because I am still without one) I came across this photo. It is obvious there is a problem with something. Can any one spot it?
- Remember the Alfa was the #1 selling DP About 10 years ago. It was the biggest POC on the road. # 1 seller does not translate to #1 quality.
Moisheh et2 wrote:
93mastercraft wrote:
jorbill2or wrote:
Well if they cant afford a lawyer they are certainly purchasing the wrong price range Coach! But maybe .. they did mention a 20 year Loan!! Personally I believe this must be a tactic .If they get a lawyer all this nonsense comes to a stop for a few months!! Any Lawyer worth his salt would have a heart attack at this thread .......Its a big risk but who knows ? he says they have agreed to a resolution by the 15th. personally Im hoping it works out even with his unreasonable requests. They are dumb enough to manufacture (thor) and Sell (CW) this stuff maybe they are dumb enough to Give in ;-) (don't get me wrong! they should give his money back and say goodbye but thats it !! He'll never be satisfied and will be bad news as a customer .. I know I would!)
Before this Thread I was aware of Thor's problems, Buyer beware just google palazzo as the OP was aware!!, I have owned Thor products in the past. They served me at the time but Ive since wised up and moved on to higher quality products. never say never but .... I'm pretty sure I'm just a roadside crash spectator here :-) I just can't stop looking here.LOL
All I can do is LOL myself about this whole fiasco. It is so funny. But I keep being told that the Thor Palazzo is the Number 1 selling DP in the US. Well, if that is the case there will be a few bad apples in the bunch. I got one of those bad apples. Do you guys really think the Thor Palazzo is the number 1 selling DP in the US? This is what I am being told.
In addition to what I have learned was that Thor acquired the Monaco Factory in Wakarusa IN. About the same time my coach was being built, this transition was taking place. There might be some inherent issues with that whole process of switching factories.
I don't know where you got that? Thor is the "largest " with over 20 different brands, including the Palazzo. making more RV's makes them number one from a volume perspective. However they also make TT & Fivers. A lot from acquisition. The problem is #1 doesn't mean anything other than gross sales. It doesn't mean they're the best by any measure.
However I've not heard the "palazzo" is the the number one selling MH. The fleetwood Excursion would be a much better choice than the Palazzo. Can you provide a link with that statement? It would be a interesting read.
CW and Thor have told me this. Maybe I heard them wrong. "The Palazzo is the #1 selling diesel pusher in the US." Hey, maybe I am being a little too hard on those guys.93mastercraft wrote:
jorbill2or wrote:
Well if they cant afford a lawyer they are certainly purchasing the wrong price range Coach! But maybe .. they did mention a 20 year Loan!! Personally I believe this must be a tactic .If they get a lawyer all this nonsense comes to a stop for a few months!! Any Lawyer worth his salt would have a heart attack at this thread .......Its a big risk but who knows ? he says they have agreed to a resolution by the 15th. personally Im hoping it works out even with his unreasonable requests. They are dumb enough to manufacture (thor) and Sell (CW) this stuff maybe they are dumb enough to Give in ;-) (don't get me wrong! they should give his money back and say goodbye but thats it !! He'll never be satisfied and will be bad news as a customer .. I know I would!)
Before this Thread I was aware of Thor's problems, Buyer beware just google palazzo as the OP was aware!!, I have owned Thor products in the past. They served me at the time but Ive since wised up and moved on to higher quality products. never say never but .... I'm pretty sure I'm just a roadside crash spectator here :-) I just can't stop looking here.LOL
All I can do is LOL myself about this whole fiasco. It is so funny. But I keep being told that the Thor Palazzo is the Number 1 selling DP in the US. Well, if that is the case there will be a few bad apples in the bunch. I got one of those bad apples. Do you guys really think the Thor Palazzo is the number 1 selling DP in the US? This is what I am being told.
In addition to what I have learned was that Thor acquired the Monaco Factory in Wakarusa IN. About the same time my coach was being built, this transition was taking place. There might be some inherent issues with that whole process of switching factories.
I don't know where you got that? Thor is the "largest " with over 20 different brands, including the Palazzo. making more RV's makes them number one from a volume perspective. However they also make TT & Fivers. A lot from acquisition. The problem is #1 doesn't mean anything other than gross sales. It doesn't mean they're the best by any measure.
However I've not heard the "palazzo" is the the number one selling MH. The fleetwood Excursion would be a much better choice than the Palazzo. Can you provide a link with that statement? It would be a interesting read.bullydogs1 wrote:
I would like to see the OP come out of this somewhat whole...while some of the items are "routine"...those slide pictures sure tell a story....The OP spent hard earned cash and signed a note in good faith...He in turn deserves a coach manufactured in good faith...Happy New Year to All ..
Well said!- Happy new year to all.. This party is about getting rid of 2013 and bringing in a much better 2014!!!
- I would like to see the OP come out of this somewhat whole...while some of the items are "routine"...those slide pictures sure tell a story....The OP spent hard earned cash and signed a note in good faith...He in turn deserves a coach manufactured in good faith...Happy New Year to All ..
jorbill2or wrote:
Well if they cant afford a lawyer they are certainly purchasing the wrong price range Coach! But maybe .. they did mention a 20 year Loan!! Personally I believe this must be a tactic .If they get a lawyer all this nonsense comes to a stop for a few months!! Any Lawyer worth his salt would have a heart attack at this thread .......Its a big risk but who knows ? he says they have agreed to a resolution by the 15th. personally Im hoping it works out even with his unreasonable requests. They are dumb enough to manufacture (thor) and Sell (CW) this stuff maybe they are dumb enough to Give in ;-) (don't get me wrong! they should give his money back and say goodbye but thats it !! He'll never be satisfied and will be bad news as a customer .. I know I would!)
Before this Thread I was aware of Thor's problems, Buyer beware just google palazzo as the OP was aware!!, I have owned Thor products in the past. They served me at the time but Ive since wised up and moved on to higher quality products. never say never but .... I'm pretty sure I'm just a roadside crash spectator here :-) I just can't stop looking here.LOL
All I can do is LOL myself about this whole fiasco. It is so funny. But I keep being told that the Thor Palazzo is the Number 1 selling DP in the US. Well, if that is the case there will be a few bad apples in the bunch. I got one of those bad apples. Do you guys really think the Thor Palazzo is the number 1 selling DP in the US? This is what I am being told.
In addition to what I have learned was that Thor acquired the Monaco Factory in Wakarusa IN. About the same time my coach was being built, this transition was taking place. There might be some inherent issues with that whole process of switching factories.- Well if they cant afford a lawyer they are certainly purchasing the wrong price range Coach! But maybe .. they did mention a 20 year Loan!! Personally I believe this must be a tactic .If they get a lawyer all this nonsense comes to a stop for a few months!! Any Lawyer worth his salt would have a heart attack at this thread .......Its a big risk but who knows ? he says they have agreed to a resolution by the 15th. personally Im hoping it works out even with his unreasonable requests. They are dumb enough to manufacture (thor) and Sell (CW) this stuff maybe they are dumb enough to Give in ;-) (don't get me wrong! they should give his money back and say goodbye but thats it !! He'll never be satisfied and will be bad news as a customer .. I know I would!)
Before this Thread I was aware of Thor's problems, Buyer beware just google palazzo as the OP was aware!!, I have owned Thor products in the past. They served me at the time but Ive since wised up and moved on to higher quality products. never say never but .... I'm pretty sure I'm just a roadside crash spectator here :-) I just can't stop looking here.LOL Executive wrote:
okgc wrote:
edit: Camping World refunded the buyers of a problem 2014 Winnebago Tour so CW should step up in this case also.
Winnebago Tour No Sale - build quality issues
So you're saying anytime someone's unhappy with their coach, CW should refund their money.?:h..boy! you'd be out of business in a hurry if you ran your business that way...!:S
The folks with the Winnie you referenced never took possession of that coach. IMHO, the folks at Winnie decided they would never be happy with anything they produced even if it were gold plated so they passed on a customer. Sometimes that simply makes good business sense. Some customers will never be happy.
In this case, the OP had prior knowledge of slide issues with the Pelazzo, "hoped" they had been rectified, did his own walkthru, (PDI) and TOOK POSSESSION of the coach and used it for 3 weeks..
Quote from OP:
"The thing that gets me is, I actually researched the Thor Palazzo for a long long time. I even researched how that the 2013's had serious slide out issues because of the poorly engineered and under powered lippert schwintek motors and gears. I should've heeded those warnings. But, I thought just maybe Thor would have had those issues resolved by 2014." (end quote)
Furthermore, the OP noticed "issues" with the slides BEFORE he took possession yet ignored them...
Quote from OP:
"I already noted that some metal shavings were coming off of the top rear slide gear rail, but no one at camping world or Thor seemed to think it was a problem."(end quote)
Where is the OP's responsibility..:h..or have we simply decided someone else should watch out for us....
Many folks on here, myself included, have suggested the OP contact a lawyer if he feels he has a case against Thor and/or Camping World. The fact he hasn't, to me anyway, speaks volumes. He doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of being successful and thinks by posting negative comments on this forum he will somehow bully Thor and/or CW to acquiescence to his demands and either refund his money or give him a new coach. While I sympathize with the OP, I think his chances of being successful with either are slim and none...I hope I'm wrong.....Dennis
Which is why some have suggested the OP quit posting about this. It would probably be in their best interest as they have left some not easily answered questions as you've noted.
Ignoring the fact they need a lawyer and to quit posting about are ignored. Could it be they can't afford a lawyer and are using this web site to try to strong arm Thor & CW? Honestly anyone buying something in this price range should do their research or certainly needs to. It doesn't take much of a web search to find out the serious issues the Palazzo has had.
They now are suffering the same issues many others warned them about, which they admit to. I honestly don't get it.
GET A LAWYER
