new ford chassis coming???

rjstractor wrote:

Dakzuki wrote:
That's the plan from what I have read. There is still a market for small buses, ambulances, RVs, etc which is served by an E-350/E-450 size cab chassis. It would be a strategic error to cede that market especially since they already dominate it.

Ford gave away a large portion of the ambulance market when they stopped putting a diesel in the E-series. The department I work for, like many others has stations set up to only pump diesfel so gas powered ambulances are a poor option. We will likely look at the GM 4500 Express with a Duramax.

They certainly are

pnichols wrote:
I'm not sure a diesel makes since packed into a van-based light truck emergency vehicle - other than because the agency owning the vehicle has only diesel pumps at their vehicle storage/queuing facility.

AFAIK, the V10 in it's latest configurations is ultra-reliable, super quiet, and can be idled safely/reliably for long periods, if needed, while an emergency vehicle sits at the scene of an incidence.

Diesels as Ambulance are quite common outside the U.S., they replaced F350's in the mid 80's in Australia

I'm not sure a diesel makes since packed into a van-based light truck emergency vehicle - other than because the agency owning the vehicle has only diesel pumps at their vehicle storage/queuing facility.

AFAIK, the V10 in it's latest configurations is ultra-reliable, super quiet, and can be idled safely/reliably for long periods, if needed, while an emergency vehicle sits at the scene of an incidence.

All the ambulance/people hauler companies around here have either gone to the Chevy/GMC Express 4500 cutaway, or the F-450-550 cutaway.
The F series vehicles are awful long though.....

Dakzuki wrote:
That's the plan from what I have read. There is still a market for small buses, ambulances, RVs, etc which is served by an E-350/E-450 size cab chassis. It would be a strategic error to cede that market especially since they already dominate it.

Ford gave away a large portion of the ambulance market when they stopped putting a diesel in the E-series. The department I work for, like many others has stations set up to only pump diesel so gas powered ambulances are a poor option. We will likely look at the GM 4500 Express with a Duramax.

rjstractor wrote:
I was under the impression that the E series cutaway would be produced through 2019. I imagine by that time Ford will have available a Transit product that will be comparable in GVWR. GM still also has the 4500 Express chassis, although with a much lower GCWR.

That's the plan from what I have read. There is still a market for small buses, ambulances, RVs, etc which is served by an E-350/E-450 size cab chassis. It would be a strategic error to cede that market especially since they already dominate it.

pnichols wrote:
I don't know a lot about Ford's EB technology. But .... what about it prevents scaling it up to higher liter size engines?

In other words for example, why can't Ford offer a 6.5 to 7.0 liter EB "medium truck" V8 that just happens to -> be around 400 HP, with around 450 ft-lbs. of torque, and attain average mileage of around 12 MPG? :h

As duty cycle goes up, fuel consumption goes up. An EcoBoost at full load actually uses a little more fuel than its naturally aspirated counterpart with the same HP. At that point, the efficiency benefit is lost, but you add lot more complexity and heat to the system, which reduces durability.

BTW - the EcoBoost 3.5L is already capable of 450 HP, and can be turned on with a quick programming change. However, that won't meet Ford's durability testing target for light trucks, and the current 365 tune won't even meet targets for Medium-duty use, which is why the Transits only get 310 HP, and it's not even available in full-profile applications.

I don't know a lot about Ford's EB technology. But .... what about it prevents scaling it up to higher liter size engines?

In other words for example, why can't Ford offer a 6.5 to 7.0 liter EB "medium truck" V8 that just happens to -> be around 400 HP, with around 450 ft-lbs. of torque, and attain average mileage of around 12 MPG? :h

carringb wrote:
EcoBoost is only available in the vans and wagons, not the cutaway or cab-chassis.

Yes light duty application

EcoBoost is only available in the vans and wagons, not the cutaway or cab-chassis.