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ReferralMan wrote:
Says the guy that's been trying to tell me the coach I posted a picture of is on a med. duty "box truck" chassis. :R
LMAO
I try and give accurate info and non commercial just does not have to follow DOT regs for commercial carriers. I have seen many class 8 tractors converted to pull a 5W. Class B license is required if 1 vehicle is over 26K or pulling over 10K. My heavy class 8 Western Star was just under 23K with full 300 gal tanks. I suspect you would need a class B license and may need air brake enforcement. I would have to research the brakes issue.Tom/Barb wrote:
Your thoughts on these?
For the pros, I love the engine access.
For the cons, I love the engine access....lol
Talked to an owner a while back, with an 07, that had a beautiful paint job on it and to the tune of approx. $25K, which what was once, all white, like this one.
Still might be a consideration, if the prices vs a DP, were much less, but it's quite to the contrary, from what I've seen.moisheh wrote:
EDD505: Engine choices in Class 8 trucks has changed. Most mfrs. now have their own powerplants. Freightliner offers the DD series and still will install the new ISX. I think Volvo will also install the Cummins. Not sure about Paccar. No one in his right mind wants a Navistar! Cat is out of the OTR market. Part of the problem is the electronics. The engine , Trans( especially the auto shifts), ABS, cruise control, all have to communicate.
Most of your Renegade Class 8 chassis RVs were speced out from the factory by very knowledgeable people who know what they want in a huge RV. Many of them are race teams, horse people, or those in mechanical based industries who know how to spec a truck.
I don't think I'll have a problem finding what I want power plant wise. It will boil down to the choice of floorpans and interior trim that will prolong the search. Who knows, my businesses may take off into the stratosphere and allow me to buy new. Then I can spec out my own coach. ;)moisheh wrote:
However the OP has posted he is not wrapping it
Yes, after a little research of all the BS weigh station rules and all the happy cops in all the different states. I figure it's just best to run in stealth mode and avoid all the hassle. I'll keep it plain vanilla white so when I go to re-sell it, it will be a blank canvas for somebody else if they desire to wrap it or paint it with their own graphics.- EDD505: Engine choices in Class 8 trucks has changed. Most mfrs. now have their own powerplants. Freightliner offers the DD series and still will install the new ISX. I think Volvo will also install the Cummins. Not sure about Paccar. No one in his right mind wants a Navistar! Cat is out of the OTR market. Part of the problem is the electronics. The engine , Trans( especially the auto shifts), ABS, cruise control, all have to communicate.
Moisheh - EDD505: You would be correct if it was just another painted unit. But the OP mentioned something about wrapping it to promote his business. That would set off alarm bells with the DOT. Many of the racers who are not really pros get hassled all the time and some state DOT inspectors insist it be treated as a commercial vehicle. IIRC it was a Southern state where they were having problems Georgia maybe. However the OP has posted he is not wrapping it !
Moisheh Tom/Barb wrote:
See Folks? he knows every thing about the subject, I think we have been trolled..
Says the guy that's been trying to tell me the coach I posted a picture of is on a med. duty "box truck" chassis. :REdd505 wrote:
It is a RV on a class 8 frame, and I suspect it can be ordered with what ever engine you choose. Class 8 commercial trucks can be. You comments on which engines and frames are bad; isn't that like the Ford-Chevy-Dodge debate? To each his own. Again if you want it and can afford it, go for it! I worked for it and I will spend it, my kids can hope it's all paid for before I pass. The kids can spend what they make.
Yep... have some uniformed people here commenting on something they have no knowledge about. They're confusing the Medium Duty truck chassis (as Tom did) with the Class 8's like which you said, can be ordered with a multitude of high HP engines, transmissions, drivetrains, wheel bases etc. etc.Edd505 wrote:
wvabeer wrote:
Not attractive, expensive, less storage underneath and I'll bet noisy in the cab. Not my first choice.
They are not noisy. How do I know 750,000+ as an owner operator
Way more storage than most other MH or 5W.moisheh wrote:
Not all Class 8's are alike. Some are built on a Navistar chassis with a horrible engine, bad emmisi0n system and more! Some units that were built in 06,07 have a Mercedes engine that is even worse. There are units that are nicer looking than what the OP mentioned. He will have problems with his unit being commercial. That will mean a CDL and probably the installation of an ELD and follow Hours of Service. He might also need an IFTA fuel sticker. Maybe a USDOT# and more. Will have to scale It will be a nightmare.
Moisheh
CDL = Commercial Drivers License. it's not a commercial so no hours of service & no scales.
ELD = Electronic Recording device not need as not under hours of service
IFTA is fuel tax reporting motor carriers,
USDOT# is Commercial registration of motor carrier of fright of people
Yes I owned & drove a class 8 truck after I retired from 25 years law enforcement. If you want to know more about commercial driving and related regulations. https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/
It is a RV on a class 8 frame, and I suspect it can be ordered with what ever engine you choose. Class 8 commercial trucks can be. You comments on which engines and frames are bad; isn't that like the Ford-Chevy-Dodge debate? To each his own. Again if you want it and can afford it, go for it! I worked for it and I will spend it, my kids can hope it's all paid for before I pass. The kids can spend what they make.
See Folks? he knows every thing about the subject, I think we have been trolled..STBRetired wrote:
Here's what I'll be purchasing, or at least something very similar...
Looks pretty livable to me. :C
That is beautiful and only a dream on my retired pay. Maybe the lottery :R
