These are rapidly replacing the Sprinter in Australia

tatest wrote:
Dominant issues are economic, imports have to deal with the 25% tariff on light trucks. Daimler uses knockdown kits assembled in the U.S., Ford and FCA have opted for U.S. final assembly with high NAFTA component content, as have GM/Izuzu and Toyota (Hino brand). FIAT can figure out how to produce their Iveco brand for our market, if they think the market is worthwhile. Same for Renault/Nissan or PSA, both big in light trucks globally but not currently in the U.S. market.

Yep, the chicken tax kills the competition here. Truck and auto mfg love it but its bad for the consumer.

Charles

tatest wrote:

bagman wrote:
Robert, do you think some American RV Mfgrs will soon be building on the IVECO chassis?

Dominant issues are economic, imports have to deal with the 25% tariff on light trucks. Daimler uses knockdown kits assembled in the U.S., Ford and FCA have opted for U.S. final assembly with high NAFTA component content, as have GM/Izuzu and Toyota (Hino brand). FIAT can figure out how to produce their Iveco brand for our market, if they think the market is worthwhile. Same for Renault/Nissan or PSA, both big in light trucks globally but not currently in the U.S. market.

No they are not. More known for Vans in Europe, their are truck like cab chassis variants of the Vans though. FCA has RAM in North America.IVECO is part of the CNH grouping, quite a separate Company..
Renault Trucks does make a similar range of light, medium and heavy trucks, but they are owned by Volvo, not Renault. Renault Defence Vehicles is another separate entity.
Renault did produce a Heavy Van like the IVECO Daily, it was called the Mascott, but it was dropped and replaced by a basic truck when Volvo bought Renault Trucks.
Renault Trucks owned by Volvo

This is a Van produced by Renault/ Nissan and is used a Class C base Renault Master.

bagman wrote:
Robert, do you think some American RV Mfgrs will soon be building on the IVECO chassis?

Dominant issues are economic, imports have to deal with the 25% tariff on light trucks. Daimler uses knockdown kits assembled in the U.S., Ford and FCA have opted for U.S. final assembly with high NAFTA component content, as have GM/Izuzu and Toyota (Hino brand). FIAT can figure out how to produce their Iveco brand for our market, if they think the market is worthwhile. Same for Renault/Nissan or PSA, both big in light trucks globally but not currently in the U.S. market.

rjstractor wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:
You seem to get very limited selections in the US of overseas trucks. A example would be your " Mitsubishi Fuso" which is the small Canter anywhere else. Mitsubishi Fuso(owned by Mercedes Benz) has trucks that pull 100tons.
I would say the US importers have only brought the light delivery trucks into the US

That is a little strange, in the mid 90's Isuzu medium duty trucks up to 32K GVWR were pretty common. I drove one, and it was nicer and easier to drive than any US truck of the same time period.

Correct ,It would seem that they are now all light duty trucks.sold in the US. 32000lb by the way is a light Medium truck. Isuzu's Medium Trucks go to 50,000lb outside NA.
Chevrolets new Medium Truck to be sold in the US is a rebadged Isuzu

RobertRyan wrote:
You seem to get very limited selections in the US of overseas trucks. A example would be your " Mitsubishi Fuso" which is the small Canter anywhere else. Mitsubishi Fuso(owned by Mercedes Benz) has trucks that pull 100tons.
I would say the US importers have only brought the light delivery trucks into the US

That is a little strange, in the mid 90's Isuzu medium duty trucks up to 32K GVWR were pretty common. I drove one, and it was nicer and easier to drive than any US truck of the same time period.

Taking in extremes this is the IVECO Tonto Extreme 4x4 Motorhome. Powered by a IVECO 13 litre 560hp Diesel, it is a very capable Off Road Bus or Motorhome.

Sunliner using the IVECO introduced a "Mixed Terrain" Motorhome

j-d wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:
Actually they make a vast range of Trucks from the IVECO Daily to Quarry Trucks.

I saw that when I gOOgled IVECO and read about them. I think the only ones I ever actually recognized as IVECO were single-axle cab-over box trucks. If I had to guess the GCWR I'd say no more than 26,000 pounds.

I also read they halted truck operations in USA around 1990.

You seem to get very limited selections in the US of overseas trucks. A example would be your " Mitsubishi Fuso" which is the small Canter anywhere else. Mitsubishi Fuso(owned by Mercedes Benz) has trucks that pull 100tons.
I would say the US importers have only brought the light delivery trucks into the US

RobertRyan wrote:
Actually they make a vast range of Trucks from the IVECO Daily to Quarry Trucks.

I saw that when I gOOgled IVECO and read about them. I think the only ones I ever actually recognized as IVECO were single-axle cab-over box trucks. If I had to guess the GCWR I'd say no more than 26,000 pounds.

I also read they halted truck operations in USA around 1990.

j-d wrote:
I was disappointed at the carrying capacity and the length motorhome that could be built on Sprinter. Surely Ford Transit would be better. NOPE! Smaller, lighter MoHo's being offered on the Ford. So now what? That Daily looks like something that would fill the bill.
But... Nobody's interested in the MoHo market all by itself. If a MFR knows they have a good offering for a small market segment, they aren't going to enter if they also feel they can't capture a profitable share of the mainstream. Such as box trucks in this case...
I remember seeing IVECO trucks in USA years ago, and I thought they had their place in the "delivery truck" market.

Actually they make a vast range of Trucks from the IVECO Daily to Quarry Trucks