Which do you do first - slider or jacks ?

RayChez wrote:
Lower the jacks first and level your coach that way you do not have any twist on the body of the coach if you are in an unlevel ground. Then extend your slides.

I believe Monaco has it just the opposite.

I suggest if the ground is that uneven then perhaps move to a flater spot or block wheels.However if its that uneven then probable level with jacks first and then slides out. However I have found as I have posted 3 times that in general while on REASONABLE level surface one should deploy the slides and then level with jacks.That is my opinion and found my slides go in/out more freely when done this way and as I previously posted so did my buddy with gulfstream whom had sticking slides.we are really talking two different situations here one being a normal flat RV space verses some obsure uneven parking spot

my dad used to say "common sense is an uncommon thing" i thought thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. now, that im older, maybe not wiser, but now, i know he was right.
if you notice, the room issues are related not to the chassis, but to the suspension system.
if you have a air suspension chassis, it does not contort the chassis to extend the rooms first. i fact, if you level first, then extend the rooms, typically, you will have to relevel. if you have jacks, the chassis is somewhat contorted when you park. even on a normal spot. it makes sense to level first, so that the frame is straight. because you have jacks, and support from the ground up, there should be no further twisting of the frame when the rooms are extended.
this subject has been beaten to death. the best way to protect your coach is to do as the manufacturer recommends.
that said, its your coach, and your nickel, so do it the way that requires the least repairs.

et2 wrote:
It's really a no brainer. Do what your manual says. Frames & MH's are different. What's correct for one doesn't mean it's correct for you. Why guess or do something based on opinion of others who know nothing about your RV.

As far as the dealers having the slides out - if you noticed they're not leveled most the time either, so the frames don't get tweaked. If you don't choose to level either that's up to you.

The longer the coach, the easier it is to tweak or twist that whole body. I have seen two coaches that the frames tweaked so much that the windshields broke. One was an American Dream about 42'long and that was in Indiana. Then I also saw a National at Thousand Trails South Carolina Bay Landing. When it made the turn to go up a steep incline coming into the park, it put a twist on the whole frame of the forty foot coach to where something broke on the front end cap and it broke the windshield and half of the seal of the windshield had shifted about an inch. One side up and one side down.

It is a no brainer if you can not figure out that coach frames will tweak and cause lots of damage at times. I just can not figure why Monaco has their instructions the way they do, because their frame configuration is really not built as strong as Spartan and Frightliner chassis. Which have been used for years on heavy equipment versus the RoadMaster which is built of lighter materials to the motorhomes.

But you do have to do as the manual instructs you to do, even if it is wrong because of warranty issues if something does break down. I just can not figure Monaco engineering.

It's really a no brainer. Do what your manual says. Frames & MH's are different. What's correct for one doesn't mean it's correct for you. Why guess or do something based on opinion of others who know nothing about your RV.

As far as the dealers having the slides out - if you noticed they're not leveled most the time either, so the frames don't get tweaked. If you don't choose to level either that's up to you.

As many have stated, just follow your manufacturers recommendation.

FWIW, I believe Monaco says slides first and then level and all the others say to do level first then slides.

This topic gets beat to death here...comes up about every 2-3mos.
If you choose to do the procedure differently than what your manufacturer calls for...well, that's your choice. Diesels typically have different leveling systems than gassers do, and I suspect that accounts for most of the differences in manufacturer's instructions.
Mine calls for jacks first, then level. I believe the reason for that is that it places less strain on the jacks. Maybe not much, and probably not enough to matter...but that's what Fleetwood calls for ON MY RIG, so that's what I do.
I have a 22ft wall slide on drivers side. If that slide were to be extended first, and the driver's side is low, the jacks are going to work harder to pick that side up to level the coach. Once it's level, the jacks are still supporting that additional weight, and they're rated for that, but less force on the jacks while doing the leveling.


And yeah, I use a LEVEL for my leveling system :)
If I had a "stablizing" system, maybe my instruction manual would tell me to do something differently :)

Jim

Lower the jacks first and level your coach that way you do not have any twist on the body of the coach if you are in an unlevel ground. Then extend your slides.

I believe Monaco has it just the opposite.

tkcas01 wrote:

Executive wrote:
sometimes common sense has nothing to do with it.

One would think that would be common sense, but just not as fulfilling as opinion, apparently. You'd think this post would only need one reply - "read the manual". But no. Hopefully the OP has gotten the correct message.

you have your opinion and i fully respect that but I have mine and exspect the same courtesy.I say manuals are not always correct and
firmly beleive slides out and then jacks down.This is all assuming its within a reasonable degree of level.If not correct with blocks etc first if the spot is that bad or move to more level area
then set up

Executive wrote:
sometimes common sense has nothing to do with it.

One would think that would be common sense, but just not as fulfilling as opinion, apparently. You'd think this post would only need one reply - "read the manual". But no. Hopefully the OP has gotten the correct message.

Follow the instructions in the manual that came with the Allegro...period..sometimes common sense has nothing to do with it.

Monaco says to put out the slides with the air bags full, then dump and stabilize. They use a three point system so stabilizing first could twist the frame and pop your windshield....mine is air leveling so I don't worry about the frame twist....Dennis