TV Parking

BubbaChris wrote:
For the HOA's I've lived in, there was always a rule that specified the garage has to have at least some space to park cars. In this configuration it would require 1 car's worth of space to be open. So if both spaces were filled with other belongings, they the F150 owner would be in violation.

I have no idea of what the specifics are in this case.

Do the rules specify vehicles need to be in the garage during any time period or that you need to keep your garage clutter free? I'm flabbergasted the HOAs not only dictate what you do on the outside of your home, but have started to dictate what you do on the inside as well! Man, I really stand by my previous post with regards to HOAs!

The more posts I see like this, the more I am glad I left Florida and bought a home on a Tennessee mountaintop. My nearest neighbor is a quarter mile away, and the only large group I have to deal with is the large population of deer here on the mountain. You couldn't get me back to Florida and the land of condo Nazis with a subpoena.

Dtank wrote:

rockhillmanor wrote:

Dtank wrote:

Lynnmor wrote:
Does this really belong in America?

Really Sad

(Home) Buyer Beware!

Know what the CC&Rs for the community and/or the homeowner's assoc are
before signing on the dotted line.

Make sure you have (and keep) a copy - never know when you may need it.

If you have the above, and the rules are modified, "existing non-conforming" will usually win in court.

BTW - "HOAs" are *not* a bad thing. An HOA can be very beneificial.
do you want the guy that owns a moving company parking one (or more) of his vans in his driveway - next to your home?..:(

Makes future sales tough.

Bottom line, I would purchase a home with a HOA.
Just depends on what it does and does not cover...;)

Even that won't protect your interests. There are presidents of HOA's and they are voted in by the homeowners.

When a new president is elected he/she can CHANGE the HOA rules and the majority that voted him in will be the same majority that votes on the HOA changes. And you can be caught holding the bag on an RV or Truck that is no longer allowed on your very own property.

You can be really screwed after buying a house with one set of hoa rules to find out it will be changed to something that affects your household.

Same goes with an area that doesn't have an HOA and the majority of the residents band together to vote one in. :(

That's why all my houses were located in unincorporated and out of the county area's on acreage. Far far away from any HOA.

Disagree.

Living proof of that.

Beat a *city* RV ordinance that was attempting to change existing CC&Rs.
The RVers were definitely in "the minority" - but the squeaky (squeakiest?) wheel (and politics) will get the oil.

BTW - "rockhillmanor" this *was* a county, unincorporated area which became a city. City decided they needed to re-vamp RV parking regs.

Unless you are way, way out in the boonies of that unincorporated area - 'stuff' can change. Even with acreage - especially if land values *dramatically* increase!

Pat self on the back, - I spearheaded the effort..;)

However, I/we didn't have to go to court.

Yeah - they got some of the things they wanted, which were pretty logical - and no big deal (like the moving van thing).

Also, unfortunately, "going to court" may require deep pockets.
Just depends on who has 'em.
Been there done that, also.
Fortunately, the deep pockets weren't necessary for me - as (civil issue) went to the 4th dist ct of appeals. (we won).
City decided *they* were losing way too much $ and didn't take issue to the State Supreme Ct.

Judges are very, very interesting (and strange) folks, LOL!
But that's another story.

Wow, Sorry you had to go thru that.
Thank you for clarifying it for others how it still CAN happen.

I generalized my situation. I found that in my state if you buy 10 ac it automatically is considered Agricultural. A big protection for those of us that don't want HOA's and any other restrictions. It would take an act of God for the county in my state to touch AG property because of the power of the farm bill and all the pork that is buried inside that bill that keeps all the big farm operations safe.

Even if a big farm sells to development of new homes in my area there are stipulations of minimum of $200,000 homes and minimum of 10 ac per lot. So again we are protected and keeps our property values up and in an upscale area.

I just bought property in Florida. Took me a year to find one that was over an acre, close to town and didn't have an HOA and no hopes of it ever. I know where this house is will never have an HOA.......because 90% of us are all from up North and all of us have our MH's parked on the property! If it ever did go to vote 90% will win hands down with a definite NO to HOA!. :B

toedtoes wrote:

Dtank wrote:

(Home) Buyer Beware!

Know what the CC&Rs for the community and/or the homeowner's assoc are
before signing on the dotted line.

Make sure you have (and keep) a copy - never know when you may need it.

If you have the above, and the rules are modified, "existing non-conforming" will usually win in court.

BTW - "HOAs" are *not* a bad thing. An HOA can be very beneificial.
Do you want the guy that owns a moving company parking one (or more) of his vans in his driveway - next to your home?..:(

Makes future sales tough.

Bottom line, "jfkmk" and others, I would purchase a home with a HOA.
Just depends on what the HOA does -and does not- cover...;)



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I don't care if my neighbor parks his work moving truck in his driveway. I don't care if my neighbor parks his clunky beater in his driveway. As long as it isn't on my property, or blocking my way, then they can park a sewage truck on their property.

I'd rather be allowed to park my own vehicles/RVs/etc. as I wish, than stop everyone else from doing anything I could possibly be offended by.

amen, brother. the HOA's I am personally familiar with seem to be run by control freaks

For those that like these kind of regulations, and the accompanying B.S. lots of them here in gated communities of Florida.

Take you pick and have fun!

toedtoes wrote:
I don't care if my neighbor parks his work moving truck in his driveway. I don't care if my neighbor parks his clunky beater in his driveway. As long as it isn't on my property, or blocking my way, then they can park a sewage truck on their property.

I'd rather be allowed to park my own vehicles/RVs/etc. as I wish, than stop everyone else from doing anything I could possibly be offended by.

Amen. I'll take the random, real world versus a contrived, forced facade of a "neighborhood" any day.

The guy on my right has 3 Taurus SHOs that have been slowly sinking into his driveway since I moved in 6 years ago. And an addition that he's been working on since the 90s. But you know what? He's a nice guy. Helps me out with stuff without me asking (plus my apple trees have been encroaching on his driveway and he doesn't complain).

And I park my 1984 Allegro - a monstrous eyesore by many people's standards - in my driveway without anyone complaining. I can work on my cars when I want, leave an engine or transmission in the driveway for a few days while I'm waiting to dispose of it, leave the garage door open (gasp!) for the world to see, etc. and so on.

I feel for that guy in the story, but to other people's point - he signed the agreement when he bought in there. I hope the courts see it his way.

jfkmk wrote:
I will NEVER EVER live in an area where there's a HOA!

X 1000!

I think its wonderful for people who WANT to live in an HOA neighborhood, more power to you. People like me DO NOT BELONG there.

Dtank wrote:

(Home) Buyer Beware!

Know what the CC&Rs for the community and/or the homeowner's assoc are
before signing on the dotted line.

Make sure you have (and keep) a copy - never know when you may need it.

If you have the above, and the rules are modified, "existing non-conforming" will usually win in court.

BTW - "HOAs" are *not* a bad thing. An HOA can be very beneificial.
Do you want the guy that owns a moving company parking one (or more) of his vans in his driveway - next to your home?..:(

Makes future sales tough.

Bottom line, "jfkmk" and others, I would purchase a home with a HOA.
Just depends on what the HOA does -and does not- cover...;)



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I don't care if my neighbor parks his work moving truck in his driveway. I don't care if my neighbor parks his clunky beater in his driveway. As long as it isn't on my property, or blocking my way, then they can park a sewage truck on their property.

I'd rather be allowed to park my own vehicles/RVs/etc. as I wish, than stop everyone else from doing anything I could possibly be offended by.

Lynnmor wrote:
Does this really belong in America?

Really Sad

CCRs are disclosed to buyers prior to closing but yes, I think some of the rules go way overboard. I had an employee whose HOA dictated the size, shape and color of the garbage cans. one community, not an HOA, in the Chicago suburbs used to (and may still) prohibit the parking of ANY vehicle in a driveway overnight...every vehicle had to be in an enclosed garage. this was a very affluent suburb.

For the HOA's I've lived in, there was always a rule that specified the garage has to have at least some space to park cars. In this configuration it would require 1 car's worth of space to be open. So if both spaces were filled with other belongings, they the F150 owner would be in violation.

I have no idea of what the specifics are in this case.