I know some of you like public campgrounds but I find them to be annoying. You get weird power plays, crazy rule enforcements, and in this case arbitrary decisions. Case in point... we are staying at a county cg with full hookups in the upper plains. Forecast for tonight and tomorrow has the coldest lows into the mid thirties (no freeze warnings at all). Well, we get a taped note on our door saying that tonight and tomorrow night all water would be shut off due to freezing. When I approached the staff to get clarification on their reasoning I was essentially told "our decision is final and you must comply". Even showing them the nws forecast did not cut it and for even asking why they were ready to kick us out (mind you I was very polite and simply asked for the reasoning, the decision makers name, and mailing address). When I took them up on their offer to kick us out they back tracked when they realized they could not refund our monies and had no justifiable reason for their actions. This is our first public park in a long while and will most likely be our last for another long while.

Turning water off in evenings is common in colder regions. Helps to minimize water line damage which is very costly and time consuming.They let you know before hand..that means fill your fresh water tank before water is turned off.So for that you get all in a tissy :H

I agree with the CG on this. Weather forecasts are not always right. They felt it was too close to take the chance. You did have the option to leave if you didn't like their decision. When you say public CG, do you mean a privately owned or a government ran? To me all CG are public. It doesn't matter who owns it, the decision is made, like it or leave it, better safe than sorry.

Old-Biscuit wrote:Turning water off in evenings is common in colder regions. Helps to minimize water line damage which is very costly and time consuming.They let you know before hand..that means fill your fresh water tank before water is turned off.So for that you get all in a tissy :HAh first reply and this... as noted I did not get in a "tissy". Simply asked why, showed them the forecast, was told it was not their decision, I asked whose it was and how to contact them, and they got in the "tissy". Last I checked water does not freeze until 32f and the forecast low stays a few degrees above that; I guess logic and facts get me "tissied".

loulou57 wrote:I agree with the CG on this. Weather forecasts are not always right. They felt it was too close to take the chance. You did have the option to leave if you didn't like their decision. When you say public CG, do you mean a privately owned or a government ran? To me all CG are public. It doesn't matter who owns it, the decision is made, like it or leave it, better safe than sorry.Agreed and I did offer to leave but they could not refund my money. Public = Government; I imagine private parks would strongly disagree with you assuming they are public.To clarify I did not fault their decision but wanted clarity on the why and, since they were just the "enforcers", the who to contact. This thread is just a note that there are some of us that prefer private parks over public.

Side note... when they were trying to figure out how to refund my money I called the nearby koa. Explained the situation and they chuckled said this happens every year and, their words not mine, "the county park always jumps the gun".

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tpi
Explorer
Oct 04, 2014
Sorry I don't see the problem. Maybe their location runs a little colder at night than the forecast, maybe they've been stung on this issue before and are playing it safe. Whats the big deal about using tank water at night-especially with prior notice?
Acampingwewillg
Explorer II
Oct 04, 2014
Seems to me that if this water shut off was actually going to cause a hardship, I might wonder out loud, why? I can't for the life of me understand how shutting down the water overnite causes anyone to wonder why? I realize how weather forecasts are always exact and being a city, county, state park, maybe they follow different guidelines than a private park...certainly the private parks can more well afford the damages resulting from a freeze.

Can't fault the op from asking but to me, it would have not been worth the effort.
newman_fulltime
Explorer II
Oct 04, 2014
I manage a private park and if i decide the water needs off to prevent damage so bid i owe nobody a explanation and if you feel you need to leave due to this that is your choice and you wont get a refund.
Escargot
Explorer
Oct 04, 2014
When I approached the staff to get clarification on their reasoning I was essentially told "our decision is final and you must comply". Even showing them the nws forecast did not cut it and for even asking why they were ready to kick us out (mind you I was very polite and simply asked for the reasoning, the decision makers name, and mailing address).

You may have been polite but it reads like you were on the verge of being a PIA, if you hadn't arrived at that destination already.

Personally, when someone says "I simply", or "I only", I read it as a pre-emptive tactic to imply innocence.
I'd love to hear the other side of the exchange.
tsetsaf
Explorer III
Oct 04, 2014
Side note... when they were trying to figure out how to refund my money I called the nearby koa. Explained the situation and they chuckled said this happens every year and, their words not mine, "the county park always jumps the gun".
tsetsaf
Explorer III
Oct 04, 2014
loulou57 wrote:
I agree with the CG on this. Weather forecasts are not always right. They felt it was too close to take the chance. You did have the option to leave if you didn't like their decision.
When you say public CG, do you mean a privately owned or a government ran? To me all CG are public. It doesn't matter who owns it, the decision is made, like it or leave it, better safe than sorry.

Agreed and I did offer to leave but they could not refund my money. Public = Government; I imagine private parks would strongly disagree with you assuming they are public.

To clarify I did not fault their decision but wanted clarity on the why and, since they were just the "enforcers", the who to contact. This thread is just a note that there are some of us that prefer private parks over public.
tsetsaf
Explorer III
Oct 04, 2014
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Turning water off in evenings is common in colder regions. Helps to minimize water line damage which is very costly and time consuming.

They let you know before hand..that means fill your fresh water tank before water is turned off.

So for that you get all in a tissy :H

Ah first reply and this... as noted I did not get in a "tissy". Simply asked why, showed them the forecast, was told it was not their decision, I asked whose it was and how to contact them, and they got in the "tissy". Last I checked water does not freeze until 32f and the forecast low stays a few degrees above that; I guess logic and facts get me "tissied".
loulou57
Explorer
Oct 04, 2014
I agree with the CG on this. Weather forecasts are not always right. They felt it was too close to take the chance. You did have the option to leave if you didn't like their decision.
When you say public CG, do you mean a privately owned or a government ran? To me all CG are public. It doesn't matter who owns it, the decision is made, like it or leave it, better safe than sorry.
Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Oct 04, 2014
Turning water off in evenings is common in colder regions. Helps to minimize water line damage which is very costly and time consuming.

They let you know before hand..that means fill your fresh water tank before water is turned off.

So for that you get all in a tissy :H

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