NO DEISEL IN GAS CAN?

The regulations require:

A single, self-venting opening for filling and pouring with no separate vents or openings.
A permeation-resistant container that permits no more than 0.3 grams per gallon per day of hydrocarbon emissions.
Automatic closure, such as a nozzle that automatically springs to the closed position when the user is not pouring from the container
Childproof features as outlined by the Children’s Gasoline Burn Prevention Act

Translation:

The regulations require:

A single opening that's a pain in the rear to open for filling.
A complex nozzle design to encourage spillage.
No air vent to make dispensing from the container as slow as possible.
Flimsy nozzle construction to ensure limited lifetime.

Odd; I live in Oregon and pump my own diesel all the time. I also have a one gallon container I have left over from changing my oil. I keep this container full of diesel to use to fill my fuel filters when I change them. I have been doing this for years and have never had anyone question my filling it.

fj12ryder wrote:

BarabooBob wrote:
Why is it so difficult to use the correct fuel can? I work in a convenience store and we are to stop the fuel dispenser if we see someone putting fuel in the wrong type/color container. ...

Exactly what will happen if someone puts the "wrong" fuel in the "wrong" container? Will it explode? Will it catch fire? The answer is "No, none of these things will happen because the only thing that makes the "wrong" container the "correct" container is the color of the container". To stop someone from putting fuel in a container because of the color of the container is just plain Silly, with a capitol S.

My red cans have “gasoline” molded into them and my yellow ones have “diesel”. It’s not just the color; it’s the labeling,

To answer Bob’s question: difficulty is relative. If someone needs a little diesel immediately but doesn’t have a yellow can on hand it could be a big pain. If someone only needs a little diesel one time, buying a purpose-built diesel can is a waste of money.

I have multiple of each type because I have machines that use enough of both to need it.

Why be so stingy?

Color coding is not a bad idea at all, in fact, it may be the CHEAPEST "insurance" you can get if you have a mix of Diesel and gas engines to deal with.

I have a Diesel tractor, gas push mower, gas generator, gas log splitter, gas vehicles..

Tossing gasoline into the Diesel tractor could cost well over $4K to repair..

Tossing Diesel into any of those gas engines while not as expensive of a mistake as gas into a Diesel can be a real headache to drain the tank, clean the carb or in the case of modern vehicles drain and clean the fuel system then have to replace cat converters and O2 sensors and anything else you could think of that gets poisoned from the fuel mixup..

That IS why I spent the $6 for a 5 gallon YELLOW colored portable fuel jug for my Diesel tractor.

My Dad did one of those stupid tricks of using a RED Gas can for Diesel and didn't bother to label or mark it.. He filled his gas engine tractor tank with Diesel because he FORGOT that the can had DIESEL IN IT, then couldn't figure out why it would not start the next time..

He often used Diesel or Kero to clean gunked up oily engine parts..

Yes, a gas engine can run Diesel but only if it is HOT, cold, not so much.. At least he wasn't bothered with bugs while it fogged up the neighborhood..

Yeah, I had to fix it when he couldn't get it started the next time so I do speak from experience..

The prices on these cans has sky-rocketed with the EPA diktats. As I pointed out earlier the cheaper 5 gal gas/diesel cans at Walmart are $26 going up from there. Not exactly chump change. And so I'll use whatever is at hand just like most people.

BarabooBob wrote:
Why is it so difficult to use the correct fuel can? I work in a convenience store and we are to stop the fuel dispenser if we see someone putting fuel in the wrong type/color container. ...

Exactly what will happen if someone puts the "wrong" fuel in the "wrong" container? Will it explode? Will it catch fire? The answer is "No, none of these things will happen because the only thing that makes the "wrong" container the "correct" container is the color of the container". To stop someone from putting fuel in a container because of the color of the container is just plain Silly, with a capitol S.

What type of gas cans do you have to purchase in CA these days and how much do they cost

Why is it so difficult to use the correct fuel can? I work in a convenience store and we are to stop the fuel dispenser if we see someone putting fuel in the wrong type/color container. We also hit the stop button if someone starts pumping fuel and they walk away from the vehicle. Someone smoking while fueling their vehicle causes us to hit the STOP ALL PUMPS panic button. I guess some people are stupid. Last year in our town, a business owner lost his entire business-pumps, building, everything. So we react fast. If someone complains, we call the city fire department and let them explain while they get the ticket.
I guess some people know more than everyone else and the rules don't apply to them.

^ except, onboard gas tanks are not PFC's.

I'm a scofflaw anyway, because I've replaced those stupid safety nozzles with regular old flexible fill nozzles. Pffft! I wonder what Ms. Oregon Gas Station attendant would think about that.

Hmmm. Seems like every vehicle in the State of Oregon could be in violation. I have not seen a diesel or gas burner vehicle with color coded fuel containers. (Read fuel tank).
After all that tank under your vehicle is for transporting the fluid your combustion engine is sipping on for your convenience.