Wiring outdoor outlets from 30 amp campground plug?

CaptSailor wrote:
I just saw this product when doing some searching. Do you think this is a viable option? Don't really need the 2 x 15 amp plugs though, as i would wire from the breaker to the necessary locations i need power.
http://tweetys.com/poweroutlet40ampwgfireceptacleforrvs.aspx

It ought to work, but perhaps more appropriate or useful would be something like this plus something like this (located in a protected space, or else an outdoor-rated equivalent). So long as the input of everything is connected to the 30A campground socket, it's not really necessary in my opinion to have a redundant 30A breaker for the RV outlet, but breaker(s) for the 15A or 20A circuit(s) are needed. The 30A socket would connect via the feed-through lugs of the little load center in this case.

CaptSailor wrote:

GordonThree wrote:
For anything that's permanently installed, the easiest and likely most proper thing to do is hire an electrician.

What's the parks owner say about the idea?

Park owner is very easy going, and doesn't have much to say about it.

That gives lots of flexibility.

But if not done correctly and/or to code what is your liability if some one gets hurt for whatever reason?

CaptSailor wrote:

ThomBoles wrote:
It seems to me that you may be better off running the shed and outdoor plug out of your TT that's already plugged in. (pole -> TT -> shed and outdoor plug) Less mess @ the pole and you can control the power going out to there from your existing breaker panel?

Yeah this is the simplest approach for sure, but there are a couple thing about this.

1. The exterior plug on the TT is in a location that will make plugging in a permanent cable less than desirable.
2. I want to run power to my screen room (couple plugs plus a small overhead light, and a plug to my shed. (shed has a solar light).
3. I still want the exterior plug on the TT to be available for temp use when required.

Oh, I was suggesting you wire up a new connection/plug into the breaker panel just for this not use existing connections. That way you can place it where you need/want and it's all protected by the TT and you don't need a completely new box.

I just saw this product when doing some searching. Do you think this is a viable option? Don't really need the 2 x 15 amp plugs though, as i would wire from the breaker to the necessary locations i need power.
http://tweetys.com/poweroutlet40ampwgfireceptacleforrvs.aspx

RoyB wrote:
Is this in Canada or US... Probably would require a county permit doing anything here in the US... Different counties here have strange laws about just having a telephone pole in the middle of a lot and running electrical lines from from it to things... Our County here in Virginia does not allow permanent living in a RV Camper except at established trailer parks. My neighbor here is wanting to build a work shop and storage shed on the back side of his lot near the woods and is having all kinds of discussions with the county folks authorizing him to run Electric to it. He has just about decided to run his generator out there when he needs power... They probably have laws against that as well haha... The same neighbor just added a back yard patio structure to his house and I saw the county inspector vehicle there at least three or four times when that was on-going... They did not want the patio structure connected to the house... Certainly isn't like the old days...

I certainly would check-in about getting the proper permits before putting money into it...

Roy Ken

Always a good point, but not a concern in this case.

ThomBoles wrote:
It seems to me that you may be better off running the shed and outdoor plug out of your TT that's already plugged in. (pole -> TT -> shed and outdoor plug) Less mess @ the pole and you can control the power going out to there from your existing breaker panel?

Yeah this is the simplest approach for sure, but there are a couple thing about this.

1. The exterior plug on the TT is in a location that will make plugging in a permanent cable less than desirable.
2. I want to run power to my screen room (couple plugs plus a small overhead light, and a plug to my shed. (shed has a solar light).
3. I still want the exterior plug on the TT to be available for temp use when required.

GordonThree wrote:
For anything that's permanently installed, the easiest and likely most proper thing to do is hire an electrician.

What's the parks owner say about the idea?

Park owner is very easy going, and doesn't have much to say about it.

You could safely do what you're suggesting with a panel and outlet, though it may not technically be up to code for a permanent installation. I wouldn't worry about that aspect of the code too much so long as the campground doesn't object. Do make sure you use suitable wire for the connecting cables; something like the cable for the RV power cord itself would be much preferred to Romex (which is definitely not suitable for outdoor use) or direct burial cable (which is only a little more suitable).

However, I would think about whether it's necessary to have so much wiring. Your RV typically should have an exterior outlet on it already, which I would think could be used for the deck/screen room power needs. If you're mostly concerned with lighting in the shed (as opposed to using power tools or whatever there regularly), a battery powered or solar powered light would not need any additional wiring. Something like this from everybody's favorite supplier of cheap tools cheap, for example, may be suitable.

How about outside receptacles on the TT.
Is there one that you don't need to keep ?

Could the outlet in that box be taken out and a 15 amp GFI breaker be installed in there instead ......and the a new wire run from there to the new structures, in conduit probably ??