2013 Ford Diesel

So the Ford 6.7 is a relatively new engine I would say, specifically the problems of the early models.

So if I googled early 6.7 Cummins I won't see any problems? Or an early Duramax I won't find any problems?

Can't google early 5.9s. It came out before there was an Internet.

Just askin'.:h

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

And the vast majority who have them have nothing but praise for the 6.7.

Going with this logic I'm sure the vast majority had no problems with their 5.7 Olds diesels. Must be a great engine if a majority has no problems with it. :S

SO. Going with your logic, lots of problems means a great engine.:S:R

And the vast majority who have them have nothing but praise for the 6.7.

Going with this logic I'm sure the vast majority had no problems with their 5.7 Olds diesels. Must be a great engine if a majority has no problems with it. :S

The Mad Norsky wrote:

BB_TX wrote:
Most of those links come from two sites, one ford forum and the videos from the same guy. If you go to any forum dedicated to a single subject, whether vehicle or anything else, you will naturally find posts about problems experienced and someone seeking help or sympathy. Same if you go to a specific RV brand web site. So don't put too much into those as there has been no widespread postings about problems with the new Ford diesel.

Except for a few who post here, there is rarely anything posted here about a problem with the new Ford engines. And the vast majority who have them have nothing but praise for the 6.7.

And therein IS the problem. The very few members who post here on this forum.

And of these very few, there are two who have had their HPFP's self destruct. One we all know about, Ricatic.

Second was much quieter about his troubles. Luckily he had just had the fuel filters changed at Ford dealership, because Ford tried to hose him on warranty as they did Ricatic. But, after seeing the service records for his truck, Ford did warranty the fuel pump failure.

So take our small sampling for what its worth. But having two failures in such a small sampling size is mind boggling, especially considering not all of these forum members even drive a Ford.

And to the OP here. Again I say go for the 2015 and newer Ford. The pump on the previous years is just such a hit and miss. Great for those that have not yet had problems. Terrible for those few that do.

And know that when the pump goes bad, there is no warning, no symptoms. The CEL (check engine light) comes on your dash and your vehicle quits running.

Let us just hope that at that moment you were not trying to merge onto an interstate with an 80,000 pound 18 wheeler charging towards your tailgate.

And all this small forum we also witnessed a cummins that spilled it guts, and Duramax that needed new head gaskets and a CP3 pump that failed do to water. Also there was a CP4 failure do to the owner accidently pouring DEF into the diesel tank.

Also the failure rate for the CP4 is .1% and not what you publish.

The Mad Norsky wrote:
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And therein IS the problem. The very few members who post here on this forum.

And of these very few, there are two who have had their HPFP's self destruct. One we all know about, Ricatic.
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Yes, we all know about Ricatic as he has been ranting for years about how no one should ever buy a Ford because he was wronged. But any time anyone ask about people's experience with the 6.7, he and maybe one other is the only one to say anything bad about it. Except for people like you, a Ram owner, who bring his experience, and not your own.

As far as few members, just how many thousands of Open Roads members are there? And how many of those thousands own 2011 thru 2015 Ford diesels?

BB_TX wrote:
Most of those links come from two sites, one ford forum and the videos from the same guy. If you go to any forum dedicated to a single subject, whether vehicle or anything else, you will naturally find posts about problems experienced and someone seeking help or sympathy. Same if you go to a specific RV brand web site. So don't put too much into those as there has been no widespread postings about problems with the new Ford diesel.

Except for a few who post here, there is rarely anything posted here about a problem with the new Ford engines. And the vast majority who have them have nothing but praise for the 6.7.

And therein IS the problem. The very few members who post here on this forum.

And of these very few, there are two who have had their HPFP's self destruct. One we all know about, Ricatic.

Second was much quieter about his troubles. Luckily he had just had the fuel filters changed at Ford dealership, because Ford tried to hose him on warranty as they did Ricatic. But, after seeing the service records for his truck, Ford did warranty the fuel pump failure.

So take our small sampling for what its worth. But having two failures in such a small sampling size is mind boggling, especially considering not all of these forum members even drive a Ford.

And to the OP here. Again I say go for the 2015 and newer Ford. The pump on the previous years is just such a hit and miss. Great for those that have not yet had problems. Terrible for those few that do.

And know that when the pump goes bad, there is no warning, no symptoms. The CEL (check engine light) comes on your dash and your vehicle quits running.

Let us just hope that at that moment you were not trying to merge onto an interstate with an 80,000 pound 18 wheeler charging towards your tailgate.

The 2015 has a more powerful exhaust brake than previous years. The 2011 to 2014 6.7's were OK for average trailers, but the 2015 would be better for heavier trailers. It all depends on how and where you will use it.

Most of those links come from two sites, one ford forum and the videos from the same guy. If you go to any forum dedicated to a single subject, whether vehicle or anything else, you will naturally find posts about problems experienced and someone seeking help or sympathy. Same if you go to a specific RV brand web site. So don't put too much into those as there has been no widespread postings about problems with the new Ford diesel.

Except for a few who post here, there is rarely anything posted here about a problem with the new Ford engines. And the vast majority who have them have nothing but praise for the 6.7.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
I hate to break up the Kumbaya love feast for the 6.7.........but I will for the sake of the truth. :B

The 6.7 had some common problems. Here is the short list:

Turbo problems.

Turbo problems.

More turbo problems

Valve problems

Valve problems

Valve problems

More Valve problems

Bearing problems


6.7 breakdown and inspection.

Some will rally about HPFP failure. Although there have been quite a few HPFP the truth of the matter is there have been way, way, way more turbo failures so I won't bother giving you links for the HPFP failures. They are out there and so expensive it will take your breath away.

The problem with talking to people that own these engines are that if they don't suffer from any engine problems they think they are a great engine. This is just not the truth and false reasoning at its worst.

Case in point is I own several 5.7 diesels and up to last year drove one to work on a daily basis. Never had anything go wrong with the engines even though I know this engine is the worst diesel engine known to man kind. If I didn't know anything about diesel engines (like most don't) I would go around and recommend this engine to everybody because it has been so good to "me".

That is the bad news. The good news is Ford has fixed the valve problems, updated the turbo, and has refined a lot of stuff on this engine for 2015. In short, it's a good designed engine with some problems and Ford has addressed those problems in 2015 going forward.

Is it worth it to buy a used truck with a 6.7 diesel in it? Only you can answer that. :)

resident Ford basher here.

I hate to break up the Kumbaya love feast for the 6.7.........but I will for the sake of the truth. :B

The 6.7 had some common problems. Here is the short list:

Turbo problems.

Turbo problems.

More turbo problems

Valve problems

Valve problems

Valve problems

More Valve problems

Bearing problems


6.7 breakdown and inspection.

Some will rally about HPFP failure. Although there have been quite a few HPFP the truth of the matter is there have been way, way, way more turbo failures so I won't bother giving you links for the HPFP failures. They are out there and so expensive it will take your breath away.

The problem with talking to people that own these engines are that if they don't suffer from any engine problems they think they are a great engine. This is just not the truth and false reasoning at its worst.

Case in point is I own several 5.7 diesels and up to last year drove one to work on a daily basis. Never had anything go wrong with the engines even though I know this engine is the worst diesel engine known to man kind. If I didn't know anything about diesel engines (like most don't) I would go around and recommend this engine to everybody because it has been so good to "me".

That is the bad news. The good news is Ford has fixed the valve problems, updated the turbo, and has refined a lot of stuff on this engine for 2015. In short, it's a good designed engine with some problems and Ford has addressed those problems in 2015 going forward.

Is it worth it to buy a used truck with a 6.7 diesel in it? Only you can answer that. :)