2015 ford 6.7 Turbo

Hey what happened to the twin turbos?

spoon059 wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
I guess it would depend if that diesel engine cost that company a BILLION DOLLARS IN WARRANTEE WORK.

Well, I guess that is why the US government gave Ford $50 BILLION in bailout money, to cover all those warranty losses. Oh wait... Ford sold enough vehicles over that stretch to be able to afford to fix a few and still remain a viable company.

Which sounds better to you?

No excuses from me at all. I realize that they had a higher PERCENTAGE of failures with the 6.0 and 6.4. I have never once denied the fact that the 6.0 and the 6.4 are the least favorable diesel engines out there, in my opinion. The fact of the matter is that most people got them covered under warranty and kept on chugging.

How many people on this very forum (a very, very small sample size of the US truck market) have one of those "horrible engines" and yet keep on hauling down the road everyday? I see bunches of those era trucks in campgrounds all the time. I have spent the past 10 days on the road camping (its still snowing at home) and see lots of those bodystyle F250's and F350's with the PSD label on the door. Those poor suckers don't even know how miserable their engine is and they just keep on driving them. Poor suckers...

You keep finding a vey small sample from an even smaller sample of people that have come on line and complained (probably rightfully so) about their trucks. You haven't been able to state how many of these engines Ford produced (if I remember correctly in 2003 and 2004 alone they produced almost a million of the 6.0's), and then shown how many of those engines had catastrophic failures. 25 people crying on the internet sure looks like a huge number... but if you did the actual math you would find its only 25 people with actual experience and 100 people (much like you, I am sure) with ZERO experience with one of these trucks that continue to spread the hate.

That is your prerogative, obviously. I am just one of those people that likes to spread FACT, not a blowhard that throws around opinion disguised as truth...

I really wish we had a LIKE button!

marspec wrote:
My son is the head Ford diesel tech at his dealership. Talked to him last night and asked about his experience with the 6.7. They have not had a single injection pump or turbo replacement. They have had a "few" EGR problems with service vehicles that had many hours of idle time. They did have an early one with a cam/valve problem. Ford replaced that engine with a new one and had it sent back for autopsy.

Mine only has 12K towing a 16K fiver for over 10K but hasn't seen the inside of a dealership but for one oil change when I was on the road.

You don't have a good handle on the sport of Ford bashing, many on RV.net take it very seriously as a full time job.

N-Trouble wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
The usual blowhards that are always ignored. The 6.7L PS is doing quite well in sales and in the field. It's a clear case of those who have nothing left to debate with, that scream the loudest.

The Ford 6.0 and 6.4 also did well in sales so what is your point?

My point is ignoring the blowhards was pretty easy because they don't make a difference in anything.

fla-gypsy wrote:
The usual blowhards that are always ignored. The 6.7L PS is doing quite well in sales and in the field. It's a clear case of those who have nothing left to debate with, that scream the loudest.

The Ford 6.0 and 6.4 also did well in sales so what is your point?

OP here... ( again)

My question was specific about the 2015.... I believe there are good folks on here that see a Ford post and can't wait to jump on.. That's fine but it did NOT answer my question.. It just made you feel better about your self..... Again , to all who gave good insight on the specific question Thank You!

The usual blowhards that are always ignored. The 6.7L PS is doing quite well in sales and in the field. It's a clear case of those who have nothing left to debate with, that scream the loudest.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

For a company that makes money by selling vehicles, which is better... selling 100,000 diesel engine trucks a year or selling 50,000 diesel engine trucks a year?

I guess it would depend if that diesel engine cost that company a BILLION DOLLARS IN WARRANTEE WORK.

With the 6.0 it was deny, deny, deny until they took Nav to court and had to admit that the POS cost FMC over a BILLION dollars in warrantee repair work.

With the 6.7 FMC had to go to a single compressor wheel design or keep on ordering train loads of turbo's for the 6.7. They could have just went with a bigger duel wheel compressor turbo, but they dropped it like a hot potato and went with what everybody else has. Why? They had to or keep bleeding warrantee money for the duel wheel.

Much like they dropped Nav's HPOP injector system and went with the common rail system.

Tell you what. You go to this site and go 10 pages deep and see how many blown engines and turbo's people talk about.
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Then go here and do the same thing:
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Then go here and do the same thing:
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Post the results here for all to see.

I'll be waiting for the excuses to start rolling in. :B

And one more LINK

Am I seeing a campaign developing for possession of the "Big Ford Drum-Rebuilt of Course" and Blue KoolAid Recipe control???...

As far as all the 6.0 complainers coming the satisfied 6.0 customers staying away, I have a BIL who bleeds blue and has a 2004 6.0 thatbhas had several thousand dollars worth of warranty repair work...he has never been to this site...

Defending the F0rde 6.0 diesel is an exercise in futility. As a prior owner, I posted many of the available solutions to try to make the engine somewhat reliable. I have never advocated buying one unless the buyer understood exactly what he was getting into...and was willing ta accept the fact that a high dollar failure was likely..

I have statedthat if you already own a Ford POS, you have only two choices. Dump it at a big loss compared to other brands or bite the bullet and try to make it more reliable. At the time I had the 6.0, I was unable to take the hit and dump it...I spent the dollars to try to make it reliable...and then, a turbo with only 25000 miles on it partially failed and spit a very small internal piece out into the intake which wiped out an intake valve...back to the shop...and then down the road...

The moral of that story is that no matter what you do to fix a 6.0, there are too many documented ways for it to fail...I bought a new 2011 6.7 Ford to replace that POS...and it was no better than the 6.0...YMMV...but those are my facts...

Regards

Spoon059 I do have the numbers for the 6.0 because it was released in court.

Ford proved in a court of law that they paid over a Billion dollars in warrantee work for the 6.0 engine.

As you have already stated, and on the money I might add, Ford made approximately a million 6.0's in their F series vehicles.

Simple math tells me that every single 6.0 had $1,000 in repair done to it! :E Or every tenth 6.0 had $10,000 in repair done to it! :E Or somewhere in between. The latter being the truth.

That is a BIG failure rate. Even bigger when you consider, the vans and bigger trucks got the "soft Nav tune" and not the "Ford hot tune that caused a lot of problems." So most of the vans and big trucks did not have problems.

The question was about the 6.7 turbo's. And yes, the CC have a different turbo setup. At first people thought it was only a CC problem because that is what first starting to roll into the shop. Same way with the valve problems this engine has. Then the F250's and F350's started to roll in also. As indicated by the forums, there are a lot of failures.

As I have stated before, this is a balance problem and Ford knows this. That is why they went back to the single wheel turbo again. This will fix the turbo problem for the 15 6.7's IMHO.

Much like the GM LB7 injector problems, Ford is fixing the problems of this engine in 15. Ford has also addressed the other short comings of this engine in 15, as they should have. Good for them. :)