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mtofell1
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Jun 07, 2014

6.4 Hemi Towing MPG Report

8500lb loaded TT, average amount of stuff in the truck - maybe 1000# including me, a couple little ones and some basic camping stuff.

Roughly 100 mile trip from Portland area over the coast range to the pacific oceawn. This included about 1/2 interstate (stuck in stop/go traffic for part of it) and climbing over the 1000 ft. mountain range.

I averaged 8.3 mpgs which I though was pretty good. My old Dmax on the exact same trip with same trailer and gear got about 10-10.5. Losing only 2 mpg is about the best I could have hoped for making the switch from diesel back to gas.

As for power, I'm now out of all the break-in periods and could really see what this truck has.... and it's a lot. With tow/haul engaged it seems to really like 2nd, 3rd & 4th gears. The way the ratios work out (3.73 axle) 2nd gear is an absolute beast for climbing steep grades. 55-60mph seems to be right in the meat of the power at about 4500rpm. I was able to accelerate from 45 at the base of a fairly steep grade right up to 60 and could have probably kept going.

The engine braking with the tow/haul is totally amazing. I literally did not touch the brakes once coming down the winding back side of the mountain range. The suspension and overall handling of the truck continues to amaze me as well.

Of course, the Dmax had more overall power but the 6.4 is more than adequate for the 8500lb TT. EVERY other aspect of the Ram I like better. To be fair though, this truck is 8 years newer technology so it should be better.... I'm sure the new Dmax is a lot better handling wise, etc. than my 06.
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  • Turtle_n_Peeps's avatar
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    mtofell1 wrote:
    Turtle n Peeps wrote:
    Of course, the Dmax had more overall power but the 6.4 is more than adequate for the 8500lb TT. EVERY other aspect of the Ram I like better.


    It might have felt that way because of the low down torque but 410HP hemi will beat 360HP diesel towing. It will do it at a higher RPM but that is just the way it is.


    I'm thinking some will disagree with this statement. I've always been under the impression that torque is what wins the race towing. From driving both trucks I'd stand by that. Dmax was 360HP/650 torque, Hemi 6.4 is 410HP/430 torque and the Dmax had more acceleration up hills (accelerating from 40-60 up a modest grade, for example). They seem pretty equal from a dead stop on flat ground but the Dmax up a hill with the same load would win hands down.

    In any case, both moved the trailer great and I know I'm way under the capability of both trucks with my moderate sized TT.


    I think you're 100% correct with some people disagreeing with that statement but that doesn't make them correct.

    My 200/425 6.5 diesel would be crushed by a 300/370 6.0 gas engine in a tow off. Even though the diesel puts out over 50ft/lbs of torque.

    The 410HP/ 430 torque hemi would annihilate a 325/610 Cummins in a tow off even though the oil burner has almost 200 more ft/lbs of torque.

    HP is how fast work is done and that says how fast you're going up the hill and how fast you're going to be going at the top of the hill.
  • Hannibal's avatar
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    I can't disagree with it. I compared two duplicate Ram 2500 HD pickups, one 2005 345hp/365ftlbs Hemi and a 2003 250hp/460ftlbs Cummins towing the same 10,400 lb 5th wheel over the same routes around the southeast. Although at 30% higher rpm and fuel consumption, the Hemi would out tow it.
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    Turtle n Peeps wrote:
    Of course, the Dmax had more overall power but the 6.4 is more than adequate for the 8500lb TT. EVERY other aspect of the Ram I like better.


    It might have felt that way because of the low down torque but 410HP hemi will beat 360HP diesel towing. It will do it at a higher RPM but that is just the way it is.


    I'm thinking some will disagree with this statement. I've always been under the impression that torque is what wins the race towing. From driving both trucks I'd stand by that. Dmax was 360HP/650 torque, Hemi 6.4 is 410HP/430 torque and the Dmax had more acceleration up hills (accelerating from 40-60 up a modest grade, for example). They seem pretty equal from a dead stop on flat ground but the Dmax up a hill with the same load would win hands down.

    In any case, both moved the trailer great and I know I'm way under the capability of both trucks with my moderate sized TT.
  • Turtle_n_Peeps's avatar
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    Of course, the Dmax had more overall power but the 6.4 is more than adequate for the 8500lb TT. EVERY other aspect of the Ram I like better.


    It might have felt that way because of the low down torque but 410HP hemi will beat 360HP diesel towing. It will do it at a higher RPM but that is just the way it is.
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    rhagfo wrote:
    Mtofell1, great report I have been wondering about the 6.4 Hemi, sounds like Ram now have a One, Two Punch in the HD Pickup. That being a great gas engine to go with the Cummins diesel.
    I only have two questions;
    1. Really only 10 to 10.5 pulling 8,500# with your Dmax? I average 12mpg with my RAM over the same hills.

    2. Did you take HW6 or HW26 to the coast? Just for comparison purposes


    Yeah, the mpg with the Dmax never really impressed me when towing. Rolling down the freeway I could get 12-13 but it was never over 11 up in the hills. The funny thing was the same truck (Dmax) got the same mpg hauling an 11.5K 5th wheel. Maybe a little worse but I remember it was always over 10. I gained maybe .5-1 mpg when switching to the smaller trailer.

    One thing to admit is my sample size is pretty small. I really don't tow all that much - maybe 3 times a year on this route so there are all kinds of other factors that could be influencing the mpg one way or another with the various truck/trailer combos.

    As for route I was actually down at the central coast. I left Oregon City area and took I205 to I5 south and through Salem, then out highway 22 to hwy 18 into Lincoln City.
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    Mtofell1, great report I have been wondering about the 6.4 Hemi, sounds like Ram now have a One, Two Punch in the HD Pickup. That being a great gas engine to go with the Cummins diesel.
    I only have two questions;
    1. Really only 10 to 10.5 pulling 8,500# with your Dmax? I average 12mpg with my RAM over the same hills.

    2. Did you take HW6 or HW26 to the coast? Just for comparison purposes
  • Hannibal's avatar
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    I like reading these happy reports! I was happy with our 5.7L Hemi 2500 towing our 10,400 lb 5th wheel and now with our 5.4L F250 and our 8500 lb 5th wheel. I can only imagine the 6.4L would be a pleasure to tow with. We're fixing to leave Ginnie Springs after a week of partying and tubing. All kinds of rigs in here. Two Ecoboost F150s with 5th wheels beside us. 9.2mpg running 60 on the way up. If I have the same patience going back home...
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    The 6.4 hemi in the srt cars puts down 450 horse to the wheels. Compare that to the 350 or so the powerstroke and duramax put down.

    The mpg seems pretty much in line with what most gas 3/4 tons would do with that trailer. Combine that with the 6.4 having more power sounds like a good deal to me.
  • mtofell1's avatar
    mtofell1
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    old guy wrote:
    I have been wondering about the 6.4 hemi. My son bought a 5.7 half ton and it has a lot of get up and go. is yours a 3/4 ton? brings a tear to my eye as back in my younger days we had a small hemi in one of our race cars. tore the drive lines out faster than we could put them back together. but then they had some poor u joints for that application.


    Yep.... 3/4 ton. The 1/2 tons only have the 5.7 - I think the 6.4 platform is used in some other Dodge cars but is a whole different tune. If I'm remembering correctly it's in one of the hot rod cars and puts out even more HP than in my truck. It's hard for me to imagine what I have is actually "turned down" from what it could do :)

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I averaged 8.3 mpgs which I though was pretty good. My old Dmax on the exact same trip with same trailer and gear got about 10-10.5. Losing only 2 mpg is about the best I could have hoped for making the switch from diesel back to gas.

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The engine braking with the tow/haul is totally amazing. I literally did not touch the brakes once coming down the winding back side of the mountain range. The suspension and overall handling of the truck continues to amaze me as well.

Of course, the Dmax had more overall power but the 6.4 is more than adequate for the 8500lb TT. EVERY other aspect of the Ram I like better. To be fair though, this truck is 8 years newer technology so it should be better.... I'm sure the new Dmax is a lot better handling wise, etc. than my 06.","body@stringLength":"1651","rawBody":"8500lb loaded TT, average amount of stuff in the truck - maybe 1000# including me, a couple little ones and some basic camping stuff.

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I averaged 8.3 mpgs which I though was pretty good. My old Dmax on the exact same trip with same trailer and gear got about 10-10.5. Losing only 2 mpg is about the best I could have hoped for making the switch from diesel back to gas.

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The engine braking with the tow/haul is totally amazing. I literally did not touch the brakes once coming down the winding back side of the mountain range. The suspension and overall handling of the truck continues to amaze me as well.

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mtofell1 wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Of course, the Dmax had more overall power but the 6.4 is more than adequate for the 8500lb TT. EVERY other aspect of the Ram I like better.


It might have felt that way because of the low down torque but 410HP hemi will beat 360HP diesel towing. It will do it at a higher RPM but that is just the way it is.


I'm thinking some will disagree with this statement. I've always been under the impression that torque is what wins the race towing. From driving both trucks I'd stand by that. Dmax was 360HP/650 torque, Hemi 6.4 is 410HP/430 torque and the Dmax had more acceleration up hills (accelerating from 40-60 up a modest grade, for example). They seem pretty equal from a dead stop on flat ground but the Dmax up a hill with the same load would win hands down.

In any case, both moved the trailer great and I know I'm way under the capability of both trucks with my moderate sized TT.


I think you're 100% correct with some people disagreeing with that statement but that doesn't make them correct.

My 200/425 6.5 diesel would be crushed by a 300/370 6.0 gas engine in a tow off. Even though the diesel puts out over 50ft/lbs of torque.

The 410HP/ 430 torque hemi would annihilate a 325/610 Cummins in a tow off even though the oil burner has almost 200 more ft/lbs of torque.

HP is how fast work is done and that says how fast you're going up the hill and how fast you're going to be going at the top of the hill.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-08T16:59:26.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-08T16:59:26.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1232729/message:1232741","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:285800":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:285800","uid":285800,"login":"Hannibal","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-04-12T16:35:17.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:285800"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232740":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1232740","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1232740":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:285800"},"id":"message:1232740","revisionNum":1,"uid":1232740,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1232729"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1232729"},"subject":"Re: 6.4 Hemi Towing MPG Report","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232740"},"body":"I can't disagree with it. I compared two duplicate Ram 2500 HD pickups, one 2005 345hp/365ftlbs Hemi and a 2003 250hp/460ftlbs Cummins towing the same 10,400 lb 5th wheel over the same routes around the southeast. Although at 30% higher rpm and fuel consumption, the Hemi would out tow it.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-08T16:06:09.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-08T16:06:09.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1232729/message:1232740","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232739":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1232739","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1232739":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:376850"},"id":"message:1232739","revisionNum":1,"uid":1232739,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1232729"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1232729"},"subject":"Re: 6.4 Hemi Towing MPG Report","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232739"},"body":"
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Of course, the Dmax had more overall power but the 6.4 is more than adequate for the 8500lb TT. EVERY other aspect of the Ram I like better.


It might have felt that way because of the low down torque but 410HP hemi will beat 360HP diesel towing. It will do it at a higher RPM but that is just the way it is.


I'm thinking some will disagree with this statement. I've always been under the impression that torque is what wins the race towing. From driving both trucks I'd stand by that. Dmax was 360HP/650 torque, Hemi 6.4 is 410HP/430 torque and the Dmax had more acceleration up hills (accelerating from 40-60 up a modest grade, for example). They seem pretty equal from a dead stop on flat ground but the Dmax up a hill with the same load would win hands down.

In any case, both moved the trailer great and I know I'm way under the capability of both trucks with my moderate sized TT.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-08T15:37:57.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-08T15:37:57.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1232729/message:1232739","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232738":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1232738","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1232738":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:88063"},"id":"message:1232738","revisionNum":1,"uid":1232738,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1232729"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1232729"},"subject":"Re: 6.4 Hemi Towing MPG Report","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232738"},"body":"
Of course, the Dmax had more overall power but the 6.4 is more than adequate for the 8500lb TT. EVERY other aspect of the Ram I like better.


It might have felt that way because of the low down torque but 410HP hemi will beat 360HP diesel towing. It will do it at a higher RPM but that is just the way it is.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-08T11:08:38.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-08T11:08:38.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1232729/message:1232738","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232737":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1232737","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1232737":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:376850"},"id":"message:1232737","revisionNum":1,"uid":1232737,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1232729"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1232729"},"subject":"Re: 6.4 Hemi Towing MPG Report","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232737"},"body":"
rhagfo wrote:
Mtofell1, great report I have been wondering about the 6.4 Hemi, sounds like Ram now have a One, Two Punch in the HD Pickup. That being a great gas engine to go with the Cummins diesel.
I only have two questions;
1. Really only 10 to 10.5 pulling 8,500# with your Dmax? I average 12mpg with my RAM over the same hills.

2. Did you take HW6 or HW26 to the coast? Just for comparison purposes


Yeah, the mpg with the Dmax never really impressed me when towing. Rolling down the freeway I could get 12-13 but it was never over 11 up in the hills. The funny thing was the same truck (Dmax) got the same mpg hauling an 11.5K 5th wheel. Maybe a little worse but I remember it was always over 10. I gained maybe .5-1 mpg when switching to the smaller trailer.

One thing to admit is my sample size is pretty small. I really don't tow all that much - maybe 3 times a year on this route so there are all kinds of other factors that could be influencing the mpg one way or another with the various truck/trailer combos.

As for route I was actually down at the central coast. I left Oregon City area and took I205 to I5 south and through Salem, then out highway 22 to hwy 18 into Lincoln City.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-08T08:51:42.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-08T08:51:42.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1232729/message:1232737","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:2086":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2086","uid":2086,"login":"rhagfo","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-07-06T09:49:57.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2086"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232736":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1232736","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1232736":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2086"},"id":"message:1232736","revisionNum":1,"uid":1232736,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1232729"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1232729"},"subject":"Re: 6.4 Hemi Towing MPG Report","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232736"},"body":"Mtofell1, great report I have been wondering about the 6.4 Hemi, sounds like Ram now have a One, Two Punch in the HD Pickup. That being a great gas engine to go with the Cummins diesel.
I only have two questions;
1. Really only 10 to 10.5 pulling 8,500# with your Dmax? I average 12mpg with my RAM over the same hills.

2. Did you take HW6 or HW26 to the coast? Just for comparison purposes","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-08T05:21:04.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-08T05:21:04.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1232729/message:1232736","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232735":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1232735","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1232735":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:285800"},"id":"message:1232735","revisionNum":1,"uid":1232735,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1232729"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1232729"},"subject":"Re: 6.4 Hemi Towing MPG Report","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232735"},"body":"I like reading these happy reports! I was happy with our 5.7L Hemi 2500 towing our 10,400 lb 5th wheel and now with our 5.4L F250 and our 8500 lb 5th wheel. I can only imagine the 6.4L would be a pleasure to tow with. We're fixing to leave Ginnie Springs after a week of partying and tubing. All kinds of rigs in here. Two Ecoboost F150s with 5th wheels beside us. 9.2mpg running 60 on the way up. If I have the same patience going back home...","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-08T05:05:52.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-08T05:05:52.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1232729/message:1232735","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:381589":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:381589","uid":381589,"login":"Taco","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-11-17T07:42:12.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:381589"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232734":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1232734","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1232734":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:381589"},"id":"message:1232734","revisionNum":1,"uid":1232734,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1232729"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1232729"},"subject":"Re: 6.4 Hemi Towing MPG Report","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232734"},"body":"The 6.4 hemi in the srt cars puts down 450 horse to the wheels. Compare that to the 350 or so the powerstroke and duramax put down.

The mpg seems pretty much in line with what most gas 3/4 tons would do with that trailer. Combine that with the 6.4 having more power sounds like a good deal to me.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-07T18:50:39.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-07T18:50:39.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1232729/message:1232734","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232733":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1232733","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1232733":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:264687"},"id":"message:1232733","revisionNum":1,"uid":1232733,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1232729"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1232729"},"subject":"Re: 6.4 Hemi Towing MPG Report","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232733"},"body":"Great report, my mpg is about the same towing 10,500 - 11,000#.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"63","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-07T17:24:08.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-07T17:24:08.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1232729/message:1232733","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232732":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1232732","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1232732":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:376850"},"id":"message:1232732","revisionNum":1,"uid":1232732,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1232729"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1232729"},"subject":"Re: 6.4 Hemi Towing MPG Report","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1232732"},"body":"
old guy wrote:
I have been wondering about the 6.4 hemi. My son bought a 5.7 half ton and it has a lot of get up and go. is yours a 3/4 ton? brings a tear to my eye as back in my younger days we had a small hemi in one of our race cars. tore the drive lines out faster than we could put them back together. but then they had some poor u joints for that application.


Yep.... 3/4 ton. The 1/2 tons only have the 5.7 - I think the 6.4 platform is used in some other Dodge cars but is a whole different tune. If I'm remembering correctly it's in one of the hot rod cars and puts out even more HP than in my truck. It's hard for me to imagine what I have is actually \"turned down\" from what it could do :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-07T16:12:27.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-07T16:12:27.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1232729/message:1232732","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1740868841717":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1740868841717","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1740868841717":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1740868841717","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1740868841717":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1740868841717","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1740868841717":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1740868841717","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1740868841717":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1740868841717","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1740868841717":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1740868841717","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1740868841717":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1740868841717","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1740868841717":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1740868841717","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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