Building a Ford F-150-HD payload?

harmanrk wrote:

Groover wrote:
harmank,
What is your curb weight and what is your milage empty? When the 6.7 was still offered in the F150 the EPA ratings indicated that it burned a lot more fuel than the 3.5Ecoboost. That and weight is what kept me in the F150, not cost. The cost difference was minor as you observe. Also, the last time I checked you can get a lot of the features that are not available on a F150 max paylod on the F250.

Curb wait should be 7645 (10000-2355) before the bed liner and tonneau went on (another 100 for the two).

Only about 400 on it so far, so mileage is questionable, but out on the highway I had the meter showing 18.5 and climbing on a 200 mile round trip (72-73 MPH) That's as good or better than the Expedition it replaced

On the legal paper, I'm limited to 10000, but the combined axle weights add up to 11540. Which gives me a fair bit play on where the weight gets placed.

The bed height is noticable. I am left thinking that over 60 months that tailgate step (400 dollar option) would have been under 7 dollars a month .

If you can get 18.5mpg out of the 6.2 that is very impressive, especially on an F250. It was only rated for 16mpg highway when it was offered in the F150 and that was a lot lighter truck. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=noform&path=1&year1=2014&year2=2014&make=Ford&model=F150%20Pickup%204WD&srchtyp=ymm

And yes, you should have gotten the tailgate step and the factory bed liner.

For reference my 2016 F150 Lariet crewcab with 6.5' bed and very loaded weighs 5,600lbs with bedliner, bed steps, sunroof and FX4 package. So nearly 2,000lbs lighter with more equipment. The only thing that it does not have is power steps.

You probably do have a quite a bit of wiggle room on the weight capacity. I used to run my 1991 F250 regularly with the rear axle loaded to tire capacity(about 3,500lbs). I never broke anything but I did get in the habit of downshifting every time I applied the brakes.

STANG23L wrote:
You guys got me curious about the max tow F150. So went online and built an XL and for kicks built a similar spec'd F350, Regular cab, long box.

F150: $41,410
F350: $41,970

With prices being that close. For me it would be hard not to just buy the F350.

Max tow isn't that special. It takes the Heavy Payload Package to really make the F150 a solid tow vehicle.

I didn't look at a single F150/250 SCREW that was below 55k. I'm not sure what you get for $42k sticker, but it won't be much.

Mike

DW was dead set against leather seats, which limited us to XLT. We did get the heated seats, which will be nice here in MI in another month or two.

RAWR is 6340, and I have heard the Dana M275 is de-rated at that, as its is limited by the wheel/tire combo on the 250

You guys got me curious about the max tow F150. So went online and built an XL and for kicks built a similar spec'd F350, Regular cab, long box.

F150: $41,410
F350: $41,970

With prices being that close. For me it would be hard not to just buy the F350.

I made sure to get the tailgate step on my F150. The bed height is at least 2-3" higher than the old 150 it replaced. I've already used that step at least 20 times in just one weekend - my old knees are thanking me!

My curb weight on the 150 is 5800 with the 7850 GVWR package. RAWR is 4800. So far I am averaging 17 MPG with the 3.5EB but I've only got 200 miles on it. :)

Having driven several F250s in my research, the F150 feels slightly smaller and rides better than the base F250. I really didn't like the ride of the F250 with the FX4 package.

I do like the heated/cooled front seats in the Lariat package. Going from the XLT to the Lariat brings a lot of creature comforts that I wanted.

Mike

Groover wrote:
harmank,
What is your curb weight and what is your milage empty? When the 6.7 was still offered in the F150 the EPA ratings indicated that it burned a lot more fuel than the 3.5Ecoboost. That and weight is what kept me in the F150, not cost. The cost difference was minor as you observe. Also, the last time I checked you can get a lot of the features that are not available on a F150 max paylod on the F250.

Curb wait should be 7645 (10000-2355) before the bed liner and tonneau went on (another 100 for the two).

Only about 400 on it so far, so mileage is questionable, but out on the highway I had the meter showing 18.5 and climbing on a 200 mile round trip (72-73 MPH) That's as good or better than the Expedition it replaced

On the legal paper, I'm limited to 10000, but the combined axle weights add up to 11540. Which gives me a fair bit play on where the weight gets placed.

The bed height is noticable. I am left thinking that over 60 months that tailgate step (400 dollar option) would have been under 7 dollars a month .

harmanrk,
What is your curb weight and what is your milage empty? When the 6.7 was still offered in the F150 the EPA ratings indicated that it burned a lot more fuel than the 3.5Ecoboost. That and weight is what kept me in the F150, not cost. The cost difference was minor as you observe. Also, the last time I checked you can get a lot of the features that are not available on a F150 max paylod on the F250. The bed on the 250 appears is 2 inches higher which I would consider to be another drawback. I wish that my F150 was a several inches lower.

Price, and payload on the F150 really does blur the line.

2017 F250 XLT, 6.7L 6.75 Box Heavy Tow Pack, right around 55K OTD Sticker was just under 60. And yes, you have my payload sticker beat by 51 pounds.

2018 F150 Lariat 3.5l, 6.5' box, Heavy Payload Package with most available options. OTD was about $54k including a 7 year, 125k mile warranty. Sticker was about $58.

I picked it up Friday, spent Saturday and Sunday doing a full clay bar and wax. Came out pretty.

Only have 150 miles on it so far, but this is a massive upgrade from my 2011 F150 Ecoboost. This is light years ahead in ride, quietness, and comfort. DW and kids all very happy with the Lariat package and the new ride. Cannot wait to try towing with her.

Mike

Nice!