Considering Trade from Gasser to Diesel

rhagfo wrote:

It always amazes me the those that drive gassers are experts on the cost of maintenance on diesels!

only "experts" on repeating what various diesel owner's have posted in this and other forums. and a continuing subject on maintenance costs are frequently defended by those doing their own maintenance.
bumpy

mike mck wrote:
Not in my case. I paid $7K in cash for my 99 F550 XLT with 7.3 powerstroke. For what I need it for it is far more economical than my gasser. 94 F350 with 460. Hauling and towing what I do I got 6 to 8 mpg. my powerstroke gets me 12 MPG.

Far more economical and easier to drive while hauling than my gasser.

I keep hearing opinions from those that have no experience to back up their statements.

I drive a diesel Dually because I need it to haul my 4000 lb cabover and cargo trailer, M105A3 that weighs in at 2700 empty, Up the hill to Flagstaff to Phoenix.
Was very tough in the gasser but a walk in the park in the diesel.

If it's a walk in the park for a 7.3, a modern gas engine would probably have no trouble either. Your gasser experience is 20 years old.

mike mck wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

monkey44 wrote:

powderman426 wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
I would be more concerned about the initial cost than the maintenance costs, Just saying

At the end of the day it more than washes out. Check the values of a diesel and compare that to a gasser. The diesels hold their value better so the extra you paid comes back to you.

Extra cost comes back to you only if you can find someone to buy a high-mileage diesel for the amount you want to sell it for after you're finished driving it.

The rest of the truck has to still be in excellent condition after all those miles too - and as often as not, it isn't.

not to mention that on that "more economical" diesel, you are paying interest on about 10-20K more$$$.
bumpy

Not in my case. I paid $7K in cash for my 99 F550 XLT with 7.3 powerstroke. For what I need it for it is far more economical than my gasser. 94 F350 with 460. Hauling and towing what I do I got 6 to 8 mpg. my powerstroke gets me 12 MPG.

Far more economical and easier to drive while hauling than my gasser.

I keep hearing opinions from those that have no experience to back up their statements.

I drive a diesel Dually because I need it to haul my 4000 lb cabover and cargo trailer, M105A3 that weighs in at 2700 empty, Up the hill to Flagstaff to Phoenix.
Was very tough in the gasser but a walk in the park in the diesel.

It always amazes me the those that drive gassers are experts on the cost of maintenance on diesels!

Bumpyroad wrote:

monkey44 wrote:

powderman426 wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
I would be more concerned about the initial cost than the maintenance costs, Just saying

At the end of the day it more than washes out. Check the values of a diesel and compare that to a gasser. The diesels hold their value better so the extra you paid comes back to you.

Extra cost comes back to you only if you can find someone to buy a high-mileage diesel for the amount you want to sell it for after you're finished driving it.

The rest of the truck has to still be in excellent condition after all those miles too - and as often as not, it isn't.

not to mention that on that "more economical" diesel, you are paying interest on about 10-20K more$$$.
bumpy

Not in my case. I paid $7K in cash for my 99 F550 XLT with 7.3 powerstroke. For what I need it for it is far more economical than my gasser. 94 F350 with 460. Hauling and towing what I do I got 6 to 8 mpg. my powerstroke gets me 12 MPG.

Far more economical and easier to drive while hauling than my gasser.

I keep hearing opinions from those that have no experience to back up their statements.

I drive a diesel Dually because I need it to haul my 4000 lb cabover and cargo trailer, M105A3 that weighs in at 2700 empty, Up the hill to Flagstaff to Phoenix.
Was very tough in the gasser but a walk in the park in the diesel.

allen8106 wrote:

gmcsmoke wrote:
don't get a 2500 duramax.....get a srw 3500

Based on the GM towing guide for a Regular cab, SRW, diesel, 4X4 I would loose 100 pounds towing capacity by going to a 3500 vs. a 2500. For the added cost it doesn't make sense to me IMHO.

Allen, will you be ordering the truck, or buying off the lot? I ask because there is a chance if you order it with exactly the options you want, the 3500HD may be cheaper!!!! We just stepped up to a 2500HD and if we had ordered it, the 3500HD was actually cheaper by about $400 or so if I remember right. Reason being- tow pkg and tow mirrors were standard on the 3500HD, optional on the 2500HD. May have been a couple other things as well, but can't remember.

monkey44 wrote:

powderman426 wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
I would be more concerned about the initial cost than the maintenance costs, Just saying

At the end of the day it more than washes out. Check the values of a diesel and compare that to a gasser. The diesels hold their value better so the extra you paid comes back to you.

Extra cost comes back to you only if you can find someone to buy a high-mileage diesel for the amount you want to sell it for after you're finished driving it.

The rest of the truck has to still be in excellent condition after all those miles too - and as often as not, it isn't.

not to mention that on that "more economical" diesel, you are paying interest on about 10-20K more$$$.
bumpy

get a cummins-more reliable and higher resale in the end-not really brand loyal but the new dodge is pretty nice-whsk

powderman426 wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
I would be more concerned about the initial cost than the maintenance costs, Just saying

At the end of the day it more than washes out. Check the values of a diesel and compare that to a gasser. The diesels hold their value better so the extra you paid comes back to you.

Extra cost comes back to you only if you can find someone to buy a high-mileage diesel for the amount you want to sell it for after you're finished driving it.

The rest of the truck has to still be in excellent condition after all those miles too - and as often as not, it isn't.

fla-gypsy wrote:
I would be more concerned about the initial cost than the maintenance costs, Just saying

At the end of the day it more than washes out. Check the values of a diesel and compare that to a gasser. The diesels hold their value better so the extra you paid comes back to you.

hmknightnc wrote:

allen8106 wrote:

gmcsmoke wrote:
don't get a 2500 duramax.....get a srw 3500

Based on the GM towing guide for a Regular cab, SRW, diesel, 4X4 I would loose 100 pounds towing capacity by going to a 3500 vs. a 2500. For the added cost it doesn't make sense to me IMHO.

Diesels are way cheaper overall if you are doing serious towing. I would have broken 2 gas trucks by now and my 06 diesel is still just purring along. The cost per year of maintence on gas vs diesel is about the same. Diesel more per oil change but less of them

Your quote about towing capacity 3/4 vs 1 ton SRW is nothing but manufactures hype. With SRW vehicles your towing capacity will definitely be limited by payload. 1 ton SRW has more payload than a 3/4 ton therefor more towing capacity. With respect to TT&FW you can't get to the manufacturers towing capacity without exceeding axle ratings generally, with a flat bed trailer hualing bricks maybe but not an RV

Not to nitpick but I highly disagree; Ford's V10 and GM's 8.1L have reliability records that match or surpass that of diesels. Talked to a tow truck driver when gassing up a while back that had over 300,000mi on his 8.1L/Allison, and I know personally of V10's that have hit 300k without major repairs as well.


Do agree with everything else you wrote though :W