Gas engine and Diesel of same specs.Pull the same.

wilber1 wrote:

6dot6 wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:
Do a little tuning on the diesel and then there is no comparison,none, notta. And yes it will hold up to it with no problems.

Not quite. I have an Audi with a 2 liter turbo direct injection gas engine. Stock it puts out 211 hp and 258 lb torque. The peak torque is between 1500 and 4200 rpm. To match that torque and hp per liter displacement, the latest DM, PS or Cummins would need to put out over 700 HP and 860 lb torque. I can go to an Audi dealer and get a Stassis ECM program and exhaust with full factory backed warranty and boost the output to 270 hp and 328 lb torque. To match that output per liter the diesels would need to produce 900 hp and 1100 lb torque.

Yes, I completely agree diesels make for better towing and I love my Cummins but today's gassers aren't your grandpa's gassers.

well you dont have a typical gas motor, you have a turbo motor. little different than the motors in the trucks people tow with. basicall you can just up the boost n fuel til she pops. not so easy on natural aspirated motors.

So, naturaly aspirated diesels are also slugs in comparison to turbo diesels

X2.

Everyone loves to conveniently forget that when trumpeting the virtues of diesel over gas. I'd love to see a turbo'd Ford V10 or GM 8.1L go head-to-head with a modern diesel.

Full disclosure, that turbo'd gas motor would get about 4-5mpg (LOL) but the power would be there.

6dot6 wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:
Do a little tuning on the diesel and then there is no comparison,none, notta. And yes it will hold up to it with no problems.

Not quite. I have an Audi with a 2 liter turbo direct injection gas engine. Stock it puts out 211 hp and 258 lb torque. The peak torque is between 1500 and 4200 rpm. To match that torque and hp per liter displacement, the latest DM, PS or Cummins would need to put out over 700 HP and 860 lb torque. I can go to an Audi dealer and get a Stassis ECM program and exhaust with full factory backed warranty and boost the output to 270 hp and 328 lb torque. To match that output per liter the diesels would need to produce 900 hp and 1100 lb torque.

Yes, I completely agree diesels make for better towing and I love my Cummins but today's gassers aren't your grandpa's gassers.

well you dont have a typical gas motor, you have a turbo motor. little different than the motors in the trucks people tow with. basicall you can just up the boost n fuel til she pops. not so easy on natural aspirated motors.

So, naturaly aspirated diesels are also slugs in comparison to turbo diesels

wilber1 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:
Do a little tuning on the diesel and then there is no comparison,none, notta. And yes it will hold up to it with no problems.

Not quite. I have an Audi with a 2 liter turbo direct injection gas engine. Stock it puts out 211 hp and 258 lb torque. The peak torque is between 1500 and 4200 rpm. To match that torque and hp per liter displacement, the latest DM, PS or Cummins would need to put out over 700 HP and 860 lb torque. I can go to an Audi dealer and get a Stassis ECM program and exhaust with full factory backed warranty and boost the output to 270 hp and 328 lb torque. To match that output per liter the diesels would need to produce 900 hp and 1100 lb torque.

Yes, I completely agree diesels make for better towing and I love my Cummins but today's gassers aren't your grandpa's gassers.

well you dont have a typical gas motor, you have a turbo motor. little different than the motors in the trucks people tow with. basicall you can just up the boost n fuel til she pops. not so easy on natural aspirated motors.

transamz9 wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:
Do a little tuning on the diesel and then there is no comparison,none, notta. And yes it will hold up to it with no problems.

Not quite. I have an Audi with a 2 liter turbo direct injection gas engine. Stock it puts out 211 hp and 258 lb torque. The peak torque is between 1500 and 4200 rpm. To match that torque and hp per liter displacement, the latest DM, PS or Cummins would need to put out over 700 HP and 860 lb torque. I can go to an Audi dealer and get a Stassis ECM program and exhaust with full factory backed warranty and boost the output to 270 hp and 328 lb torque. To match that output per liter

the diesels would need to produce 900 hp and 1100 lb torque.

Yes, I completely agree diesels make for better towing and I love my Cummins but today's gassers aren't your grandpa's gassers.

Okay, you look at things that way, My truck is right at double the weight of your car and with a tune I can well over double your hp and have 3 times the torque.

I have a gasser in the garage that probably weighs less than your Audi and stock it has 130 more hp and 72 lb feet of torque than your Audi would even after the tune. Came from the factory like that.

This thread is really pointless because a gas and diesel will never have the same specs.

I have a gasser in my garage that puts out 160 more hp and 200 lb ft more torque than my Audi but it has a carburettor and displaces 7.2 liters.

So, it's not stock.

Bone stock. 1966 Chrysler 440 TNT. Factory rated at 365 HP, 480 Lb ft, if you believe the factory ratings from those days.

wilber1 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:
Do a little tuning on the diesel and then there is no comparison,none, notta. And yes it will hold up to it with no problems.

Not quite. I have an Audi with a 2 liter turbo direct injection gas engine. Stock it puts out 211 hp and 258 lb torque. The peak torque is between 1500 and 4200 rpm. To match that torque and hp per liter displacement, the latest DM, PS or Cummins would need to put out over 700 HP and 860 lb torque. I can go to an Audi dealer and get a Stassis ECM program and exhaust with full factory backed warranty and boost the output to 270 hp and 328 lb torque. To match that output per liter

the diesels would need to produce 900 hp and 1100 lb torque.

Yes, I completely agree diesels make for better towing and I love my Cummins but today's gassers aren't your grandpa's gassers.

Okay, you look at things that way, My truck is right at double the weight of your car and with a tune I can well over double your hp and have 3 times the torque.

I have a gasser in the garage that probably weighs less than your Audi and stock it has 130 more hp and 72 lb feet of torque than your Audi would even after the tune. Came from the factory like that.

This thread is really pointless because a gas and diesel will never have the same specs.

I have a gasser in my garage that puts out 160 more hp and 200 lb ft more torque than my Audi but it has a carburettor and displaces 7.2 liters.

So, it's not stock.

transamz9 wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:
Do a little tuning on the diesel and then there is no comparison,none, notta. And yes it will hold up to it with no problems.

Not quite. I have an Audi with a 2 liter turbo direct injection gas engine. Stock it puts out 211 hp and 258 lb torque. The peak torque is between 1500 and 4200 rpm. To match that torque and hp per liter displacement, the latest DM, PS or Cummins would need to put out over 700 HP and 860 lb torque. I can go to an Audi dealer and get a Stassis ECM program and exhaust with full factory backed warranty and boost the output to 270 hp and 328 lb torque. To match that output per liter

the diesels would need to produce 900 hp and 1100 lb torque.

Yes, I completely agree diesels make for better towing and I love my Cummins but today's gassers aren't your grandpa's gassers.

Okay, you look at things that way, My truck is right at double the weight of your car and with a tune I can well over double your hp and have 3 times the torque.

I have a gasser in the garage that probably weighs less than your Audi and stock it has 130 more hp and 72 lb feet of torque than your Audi would even after the tune. Came from the factory like that.

This thread is really pointless because a gas and diesel will never have the same specs.

I have a gasser in my garage that puts out 160 more hp and 200 lb ft more torque than my Audi but it has a carburettor and displaces 7.2 liters.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Not according to my aircraft maintenance instructors at BCIT and in my over 45 years in aviation, engines were never referred to as motors, so I guess it depends on where you come from.

Well I guess you and your aircraft maintenance instructor are going to have to change a lot of words. :W

Enginecycle

Enginehome

Outboard Engine

Engine vehicle

Engine pool

Like I said, the word motor is all inclusive. I can call a gasoline engine a motor but I can't call an electric motor an engine.

You might show your instructor the following:

mo·tor

/?m?t?r/

Noun

A machine, esp. one powered by electricity or internal combustion, that supplies motive power for a vehicle or for some other device... :)

How about hydraulic motors? What does your dictionary say about them?
My instructors were not wrong, in aviation the the term motor is never used to describe powerplants. Gas turbine motor. I don' t think so.

wilber1 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:
Do a little tuning on the diesel and then there is no comparison,none, notta. And yes it will hold up to it with no problems.

Not quite. I have an Audi with a 2 liter turbo direct injection gas engine. Stock it puts out 211 hp and 258 lb torque. The peak torque is between 1500 and 4200 rpm. To match that torque and hp per liter displacement, the latest DM, PS or Cummins would need to put out over 700 HP and 860 lb torque. I can go to an Audi dealer and get a Stassis ECM program and exhaust with full factory backed warranty and boost the output to 270 hp and 328 lb torque. To match that output per liter the diesels would need to produce 900 hp and 1100 lb torque.

Yes, I completely agree diesels make for better towing and I love my Cummins but today's gassers aren't your grandpa's gassers.

Okay, you look at things that way, My truck is right at double the weight of your car and with a tune I can well over double your hp and have 3 times the torque.

I have a gasser in the garage that probably weighs less than your Audi and stock it has 130 more hp and 72 lb feet of torque than your Audi would even after the tune. Came from the factory like that.

This thread is really pointless because a gas and diesel will never have the same specs.

Not according to my aircraft maintenance instructors at BCIT and in my over 45 years in aviation, engines were never referred to as motors, so I guess it depends on where you come from.

Well I guess you and your aircraft maintenance instructor are going to have to change a lot of words. :W

Enginecycle

Enginehome

Outboard Engine

Engine vehicle

Engine pool

Like I said, the word motor is all inclusive. I can call a gasoline engine a motor but I can't call an electric motor an engine.

You might show your instructor the following:

mo·tor

/?m?t?r/

Noun

A machine, esp. one powered by electricity or internal combustion, that supplies motive power for a vehicle or for some other device... :)

transamz9 wrote:
Do a little tuning on the diesel and then there is no comparison,none, notta. And yes it will hold up to it with no problems.

Not quite. I have an Audi with a 2 liter turbo direct injection gas engine. Stock it puts out 211 hp and 258 lb torque. The peak torque is between 1500 and 4200 rpm. To match that torque and hp per liter displacement, the latest DM, PS or Cummins would need to put out over 700 HP and 860 lb torque. I can go to an Audi dealer and get a Stassis ECM program and exhaust with full factory backed warranty and boost the output to 270 hp and 328 lb torque. To match that output per liter the diesels would need to produce 900 hp and 1100 lb torque.

Yes, I completely agree diesels make for better towing and I love my Cummins but today's gassers aren't your grandpa's gassers.