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- 4x4ordExplorer III
ShinerBock wrote:
transamz9 wrote:
Do you have the Aisan transmission? I've heard that they are having trouble tuning the Aisan trucks because it is on its own controller. I've heard it shifts funny with power added?
No, I got a 68RFE and plan on getting a built Revmax or Suncoast when this one goes. From the looks of it I will be waiting a while. I have a good friend that has the same tunes as mine in his 2012 and his 68RFE is still going strong with almost 130k on the tune. We both don't drive like jackass teenagers going WOT all the time which is probably why we are not tearing it up. The tune also increases line pressure and alters shift points to ensure you are not lugging in higher gears.
If you don't want to drive like a "jackass teenager" why did you tamper with your truck? - ShinerBockExplorer
transamz9 wrote:
Do you have the Aisan transmission? I've heard that they are having trouble tuning the Aisan trucks because it is on its own controller. I've heard it shifts funny with power added?
No, I got a 68RFE and plan on getting a built Revmax or Suncoast when this one goes. From the looks of it I will be waiting a while. I have a good friend that has the same tunes as mine in his 2012 and his 68RFE is still going strong with almost 130k on the tune. We both don't drive like jackass teenagers going WOT all the time which is probably why we are not tearing it up. The tune also increases line pressure and alters shift points to ensure you are not lugging in higher gears. - transamz9Explorer
ShinerBock wrote:
At least 930 lb-ft? Meh... I am sitting at 950 lb-ft at the wheels in my 2014 CTD, and that is just the the light tow tune.
Do you have the Aisan transmission? I've heard that they are having trouble tuning the Aisan trucks because it is on its own controller. I've heard it shifts funny with power added? - ShinerBockExplorerAt least 930 lb-ft? Meh... I am sitting at 950 lb-ft at the wheels in my 2014 CTD, and that is just the the light tow tune.
- HuntindogExplorer
Cummins12V98 wrote:
I just watched the video again..Huntindog wrote:
patriotgrunt wrote:
That 30K spec is not a realistic number for Rvers.Lessmore wrote:
Chevies have always been known for outstanding power...all starting back in 1955 with the introduction of the legendary small block Chevy V8. Power and lots of it...has been a bow tie tradition in both gas and diesel engines over the years.
So no....not at all...nope.... I'm not surprised that Chevy came first and Ford was at the tail end.
Some say horse power is horsepower....but in my humble opinion horses are rated differently....there are Shetland horses (blue oval) and then there are Clydesdale's (bow tie). :B
All I can say...is it is a good thing that the Chevy was 'hobbled' with 3.73's to the Ford's 4.10's....or could you imagine what the Chevy times would of been.
Remind my again why these trucks are only pulling 22,800#s? :B
A 30K 5ver will have approx. 7500# pin weight.
None of the trucks are capable of that.
Lots of guys hauling big car trailers. So the upper numbers do apply just not to the masses. If they could pass the SAE test with 30K in tow they sure would have!
Heck my RV is borderline with the GM's.
I noticed that the RAMs payload is ONLY 5690#.
It could just barely handle the pin weight of your 5ver.... If you packed light and skipped lunch. :B Huntindog wrote:
CumminsDriver wrote:
Thank you for posting that pic. It just makes my point for me.Cummins12V98 wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
patriotgrunt wrote:
That 30K spec is not a realistic number for Rvers.Lessmore wrote:
Chevies have always been known for outstanding power...all starting back in 1955 with the introduction of the legendary small block Chevy V8. Power and lots of it...has been a bow tie tradition in both gas and diesel engines over the years.
So no....not at all...nope.... I'm not surprised that Chevy came first and Ford was at the tail end.
Some say horse power is horsepower....but in my humble opinion horses are rated differently....there are Shetland horses (blue oval) and then there are Clydesdale's (bow tie). :B
All I can say...is it is a good thing that the Chevy was 'hobbled' with 3.73's to the Ford's 4.10's....or could you imagine what the Chevy times would of been.
Remind my again why these trucks are only pulling 22,800#s? :B
A 30K 5ver will have approx. 7500# pin weight.
None of the trucks are capable of that.
Lots of guys hauling big car trailers. So the upper numbers do apply just not to the masses. If they could pass the SAE test with 30K in tow they sure would have!
Heck my RV is borderline with the GM's.
Lot's of guys hauling the big car hauler trailers with all three brands, but I do see a big advantage in numbers to the Ram. I travel about once a month to the San Francisco Bay area, and go by the Benicia Bridge where there is a huge area where the ships and Railroad off load cars and trucks. The Duallys hauling these trailers have 45K weight stickers on the doors so they don't go by what the trucks factory GCWR is, they go by what they can legally haul and how much they want to register the trucks for. All three brands do it with much heavier loads than your 5th wheel.
Rich
A 30K 5ver will not be possible with any of the three due to the .... Wait for it...........PIN WEIGHT.
As for the snide comment again about "if GM could, they would"
WHY? They have obviously ignored the advertised superiority game in the past, when they clearly could have claimed the crowns. So ignoring it now id consistent with their past protocol.
Fact is, nobody knows why GM has chosen a conservative approach to ratings in the past OR present.... Just as nobody knows why others have chosen to use liberal methods.... It is anyone's guess.
Thank you for sharing YOUR OPINION.
The latest J Standard is not an opinion.- blofgrenExplorer
Huntindog wrote:
ramincr wrote:
Andre Smirnov
March 4, 2017 at 11:43 am
We did not detect any mechanical or software fault with the Super Duty. We did run the truck twice with similar results. We reported the best numbers
Did they give the other trucks two chances as well? If not, why not?
The other 2 trucks didn't need 2 chances.... ;) - 73gunaExplorerAll three did well, but the Bowtie continues to impress me more and more!
This was not only an uphill test but downhill, mpg and subjective scoring came into play.
Overall scoring
Chevy 64.5
Dodge 61
Ford 56.5 - HuntindogExplorer
CumminsDriver wrote:
Thank you for posting that pic. It just makes my point for me.Cummins12V98 wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
patriotgrunt wrote:
That 30K spec is not a realistic number for Rvers.Lessmore wrote:
Chevies have always been known for outstanding power...all starting back in 1955 with the introduction of the legendary small block Chevy V8. Power and lots of it...has been a bow tie tradition in both gas and diesel engines over the years.
So no....not at all...nope.... I'm not surprised that Chevy came first and Ford was at the tail end.
Some say horse power is horsepower....but in my humble opinion horses are rated differently....there are Shetland horses (blue oval) and then there are Clydesdale's (bow tie). :B
All I can say...is it is a good thing that the Chevy was 'hobbled' with 3.73's to the Ford's 4.10's....or could you imagine what the Chevy times would of been.
Remind my again why these trucks are only pulling 22,800#s? :B
A 30K 5ver will have approx. 7500# pin weight.
None of the trucks are capable of that.
Lots of guys hauling big car trailers. So the upper numbers do apply just not to the masses. If they could pass the SAE test with 30K in tow they sure would have!
Heck my RV is borderline with the GM's.
Lot's of guys hauling the big car hauler trailers with all three brands, but I do see a big advantage in numbers to the Ram. I travel about once a month to the San Francisco Bay area, and go by the Benicia Bridge where there is a huge area where the ships and Railroad off load cars and trucks. The Duallys hauling these trailers have 45K weight stickers on the doors so they don't go by what the trucks factory GCWR is, they go by what they can legally haul and how much they want to register the trucks for. All three brands do it with much heavier loads than your 5th wheel.
Rich
A 30K 5ver will not be possible with any of the three due to the .... Wait for it...........PIN WEIGHT.
As for the snide comment again about "if GM could, they would"
WHY? They have obviously ignored the advertised superiority game in the past, when they clearly could have claimed the crowns. So ignoring it now id consistent with their past protocol.
Fact is, nobody knows why GM has chosen a conservative approach to ratings in the past OR present.... Just as nobody knows why others have chosen to use liberal methods.... It is anyone's guess.
Thank you for sharing YOUR OPINION.
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