JD Power Dependability Awards - GMC wins Pickup Segments

45Ricochet wrote:
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Congrats GM
We all like feathers for our hats :B

RICK!!! What in the WORLD are you trying to do here???? Man, it was all going good and you had to toss in some irrelevant FACTS, tsk, tsk, tsk:B

Not QUITE as bad as "Consumers Report"....but...ah, never mind..

45Ricochet wrote:
Clicky

Although publicly known for the endorsement value of its product awards, J.D. Power obtains the majority of its revenue from corporations that seek the data collected from J.D. Power surveys for internal use. Companies which have used J.D. Power surveys range from automotive, cellphone, and computer manufacturers to home builders and utility companies. To be able to use the J.D. Power logo and to quote the survey results in advertising, companies must pay a licensing fee to J.D. Power. These advertisement licensing fees, however, form a small part of J.D. Power's revenues, but a substantial portion of earnings. In the 1990s, J.D. Power tightened its rules on awards advertising to prevent excessive use of the J.D. Power logo.

Congrats GM
We all like feathers for our hats :B

I guess you gotta pay to play:)

ricatic wrote:

catfishmontana wrote:

ricatic wrote:
How long before the Blue KoolAid bunch tries to spin this one....

Regards

Pot.....meet kettle.

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:h

yeah ric, I didn't get that one either....yeah, I know you were a ford owner, but think we know, as Paul Harvey would have said, "Here's the rest of the story".....I see a Chevy in your sig:B

Clicky

Although publicly known for the endorsement value of its product awards, J.D. Power obtains the majority of its revenue from corporations that seek the data collected from J.D. Power surveys for internal use. Companies which have used J.D. Power surveys range from automotive, cellphone, and computer manufacturers to home builders and utility companies. To be able to use the J.D. Power logo and to quote the survey results in advertising, companies must pay a licensing fee to J.D. Power. These advertisement licensing fees, however, form a small part of J.D. Power's revenues, but a substantial portion of earnings. In the 1990s, J.D. Power tightened its rules on awards advertising to prevent excessive use of the J.D. Power logo.

Congrats GM
We all like feathers for our hats :B

catfishmontana wrote:

ricatic wrote:
How long before the Blue KoolAid bunch tries to spin this one....

Regards

Pot.....meet kettle.

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jspence1 wrote:

Engineer9860 wrote:


Story that goes with above chart:

These studies are useless as long as people are reporting the problems. Case in point I asked my wife how many problems she's had with her car her response was none. In reality I've had it to the dealer twice once to update the transmission shift patterns to stop me getting whiplash and once for the gps/audio system. She asked me about my car and it turns out I too was wrong. Our emotions come into play when you are reviewing the car if you like the car you are less likely to remember the small things if you don't like the car you will remember everything.

Good point....I've owned Jeeps since 1984, Wranglers, Grand Cherokee Limiteds, Liberty, Patriot and now a Compass...TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE, problem ridden cars and in the 30 years I've owned all of them, I never had the FIRST problem, nothing, only in shop to get an oil change or tire rotation, and only then if it was free......

same with Ram...three of them, yeah, only 3 years, not an issue, none....but I'll give it time.

....but I also owned an 05 Chevy 3500 Dually with the LLY, (overheating) and in all the mountain towing I done, I only saw temp gage go up one time, which STILL didn't cause any lights or alarms to go off and that was that...had it for 2.5 years and other than seeing temp. gage go up the one time...that was it.

yeah, sometimes these charts nothing more than propaganda or just a stupid joke.

For what one would pay of a Mercedes or Lexus, I would CERTAINLY HOPE that their reputation is WAYYYYYY up there....it has been for years, and years and years and, well, you get the drift.

Engineer9860 wrote:


Story that goes with above chart:

These studies are useless as long as people are reporting the problems. Case in point I asked my wife how many problems she's had with her car her response was none. In reality I've had it to the dealer twice once to update the transmission shift patterns to stop me getting whiplash and once for the gps/audio system. She asked me about my car and it turns out I too was wrong. Our emotions come into play when you are reviewing the car if you like the car you are less likely to remember the small things if you don't like the car you will remember everything.

That's an interesting chart up there.

Lexus continues being Lexus. Mercedes has come leaps & bounds on reliability. And 10 years ago who would've envisioned Cadillac & Buick ranking above Toyota, and Lincoln tied with them?

Lot of these type of charts/rankings are 90% subjective, but I don't see too much subjectivity in "problems per 100 vehicles." Not sure what the sample size is, but the data is interesting nevertheless.

ricatic wrote:
How long before the Blue KoolAid bunch tries to spin this one....

Regards

Pot.....meet kettle.

itguy08 wrote:
Always said GM made a good vehicle. As does Ford. You don't become #1 and #2 in sales by building junk.

Also, look at the Chrysler Corp. groupings, including Ram. At the bottom of the pack. I thought "the quality issues would be fixed by 2011"? Some things never change.

Nah, Rams a joke, ugly, unreliable engine, no tranny, low GVWR and GCWR numbers, an ugly truck inside and out....can't believe you'd even bring it up unless doing your typical trolling of Chrysler/Ram products that most know you excel at and "lay in waiting" to do....Go after the #2 Chevy/GM products that this topic is actually about.....Chevy/GM, especially with the durability/reputation of GM being able to actually use the same engine in it's truck since it's 2001 inception of being able to use the same diesel, only modifying it and making it more powerful and being very successful at doing so, Also MUCH can be said about the Allison, one of the best medium duty tranny's out there...but, thats one of those things that go without saying......Hard to beat these twins with the reputation they have earned, being, year after year after year, consistant and great trucks, not having to change engines because they may or may not have made a mistake...I agree with you CONGRATS to the GM Twins, (though, I DO prefer the Chevy...sorry GM guys:)).

I know, poor ole Ram, stuck with the pathetic, 6 banger medium duty diesel engine and a medium duty tranny (Aisin), oh well, maybe one day, they'll be able to compete with your beloved Ford....just like the GMC twins are trying to do...one thing about it GM and Ram have room for improvement....that's a good thing.:)..Thank goodness they don't have to keep trying to figure out which engine to use...guess they've been really "lucky" with this one...


.........need to try to stay on topic.....


I prefer the Chevy over the GMC, more afforadable and it's the same vehicle cept for some fancier badging.