New truck or used truck? Ford vs GMC

To me the Fords are the best looking of all the trucks...have the most cool factor. But I would probably never invest in one. Seems like since the 7.2 Ford just has not had a good diesel engine...way too many troubles. Seems like most are happy with the 6.7 but it's not really been around long enough to gauge.

I'm happy with my 06 Dmax...has performed well so far. I really have not heard too many complaints about them. Friends that have Cummins seem happy with those as well. The engine itself in the dodge is great but the rest of the truck seems to need more TLC.

No brainer for me- the GMC if it's a dually. The Denali is awesome as is the Duramax and it is new with a full warranty! Dodge would be even better, but you don't mention it as a choice.

I have a 2013 Fuzion 310 and a 2013 F350 SRW. With the trailer fully loaded out with all my stuff and all tanks full I was less than 100 pounds from GCVWR per the cat scales.

Power wise the 6.7 handles the load no problem but at times I wish I had a little more truck but not enough to feel it is a safety issue.

Towing I get anywhere from 8mpg to 12mpg depending on wind, speed etc.

If I had it to do over I would probably still get the 350, but put a lot more thought into getting a 450 or a dedicated MDT.

Golden_HVAC wrote:
The used F-450, it is probably more the "Asking" price, not what they are willing to accept Tell them you have a deal on a new GMC, and they will probably drop their price by $5,000 or so to make the sale. You don't have to be honest with the truck dealerships, tell them you are getting the new one for $4,000 less than your actuall offer. See what happens.

If the F-450 is 4 wheel drive crewcab and has a actual pickup box, it is really a dressed up F-350 dually, and not the 19.5" that the cab and chassis dually is. Just the F-450 insurance will be really expensive unless you find a RV specific insurer, who knows it will not be used as a tow truck or other commercial puropse. Tow trucks and taxi cabs are the most expensive to insure vehicles around.

Fred.

Fred
I have a 1999 F550 with a pick up bed. I insure it thru State Farm. Advised it will not be commercial use and they insured as a personal use truck. Same with the state of Az registration. Advised personal use. Required commercial plates due to plates but did not have to pay commercial registration fee.

I'm wondering why you got such horrible mileage from your 6.4. When I had mine, I was hauling more weight, dry, than you and averaged 8.5 to over 9 mpg with trailer, 15 without. Are you barreling down the road at 75mph?

You might try a Hypertech E-Con. I used one for a couple years without any problems. Provided better power. Could be a much cheaper alternative to a whole new truck.

And my 6.7 (like in the 450) averaged 10.7 mpg from Michigan to Montana mountains and back. Some days I averaged over 12mpg. Unloaded I average around 20 mpg on the highway (at 70 mph).

new vs 3 year old for the same price. I'd take the denali
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The used F-450, it is probably more the "Asking" price, not what they are willing to accept Tell them you have a deal on a new GMC, and they will probably drop their price by $5,000 or so to make the sale. You don't have to be honest with the truck dealerships, tell them you are getting the new one for $4,000 less than your actuall offer. See what happens.

If the F-450 is 4 wheel drive crewcab and has a actual pickup box, it is really a dressed up F-350 dually, and not the 19.5" that the cab and chassis dually is. Just the F-450 insurance will be really expensive unless you find a RV specific insurer, who knows it will not be used as a tow truck or other commercial puropse. Tow trucks and taxi cabs are the most expensive to insure vehicles around.

Fred.

How much milage on the F-450, trim level(King Ranch, Lariat)? Not knowing much about the 450, I would say for the same price I would go with the GMC, assuming it is a dually. Denali is decked out, truck is new so you know how it has been taken care of too. Even though I like the Ford interior better, sounds like a good deal on GMC for same price.

donn0128 wrote:
2014 Dodge Ram dually. Up to 30,000 pounds towing capacity. And 20% fewer moving parts.

Dito

2014 Dodge Ram dually. Up to 30,000 pounds towing capacity. And 20% fewer moving parts.