Newbie's Project: 2010 Tango Twist 21ft

#1nobby wrote:
Now...can you set me up with a link of a decent G31. I am obviously having trouble here.

Deep cycle batteries suitable for RV use are sold pretty well everywhere, including RV dealerships, under a variety of brand names such as Trojan, Interstate, RV Care (at any RV Care dealer here in Canada), etc. However, before purchasing any battery you'd want to establish just what type, size, how many, and at what cost would best serve your needs. Quite possibly that single G31 AGM is your best choice ... I couldn't say as I have no idea what your needs are. If you intend to camp on electric sites and won't really be doing much dry camping then it's kinda pointless investing in such an expensive battery when a garden variety lead acid G24 would serve the purpose just fine. Conversely, if you do intend to do a lot of dry camping a single G31, AGM or otherwise, is unlikely to be sufficient, in which case you might be faced with buying a second $500 battery to match the first. :E That may be fine for those with deep pockets but it's pretty hard to justify for the rest of us when a pair of lead acid 12 volt G31s or a pair of lead acid 6 volt GC-2s would be a heck of lot less costly but for most offer a reasonably sufficient reserve capacity for getting through a few days of dry camping. You mentioned in one of your posts that you purchased a couple of 25' potable water hoses and a water pressure regulator ... great, IF you have a use for them, which you won't if you're dry camping. Problem is, you haven't said just what your needs are so if you're unsure you might want to visit Battery University which can detail far better than I the various considerations you should keep in mind when selecting the right battery for the task you have in mind.

Another point - I use a cable lock to reasonably secure my battery against theft and have never had any issues with it disappearing. That said, if someone wanted it badly enough they'd likely get it but it sure would upset me a lot more to lose a $500+ AGM battery than a garden variety lead acid version. As far as longevity is concerned my current Interstate G27 is 8 yrs old and still holds a full charge just fine, 'though if we dry camped a lot more it may have given up by now. Certainly though it's a lot cheaper to replace with another lead acid battery than an AGM.

SoundGuy wrote:

#1nobby wrote:
Now I'm confused. I thought I bought that battery for a reason.

"Longest Life: Up to 2x longer service life than regular AGM batteries and 6x longer than conventional flooded batteries"

And capacity seems to be higher than others. What am I missing?
it in my fwd stowage compartment....but I need to drop the chassis enclosure panels to see what's what underneath.

Presumably you did buy this G31 AGM battery for a reason, I was just wondering why a newbie would go to such expense when a conventional lead acid battery is so much less costly and serves the needs of most just fine. :h The size of a battery case is determined by it's BCI Group Number, not whether it's lead acid or AGM or whatever so if you have the space available on your trailer tongue for a G31 AGM then you have the space available for a G31 lead acid. If by "capacity seems to be higher than others" you mean greater than a G27 or G24 then yes of course BUT a G31 lead acid will offer as much and in many cases greater capacity than a much more expensive G31 AGM. Certainly what is true with an AGM is proper maintenance as the cost of replacing it is so much greater than a conventional lead acid battery.

OK thanks for all the info.

Now...can you set me up with a link of a decent G31. I am obviously having trouble here.

gmw photos wrote:

#1nobby wrote:

gmw photos wrote:
post pics

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/201045551/Forums/PhotoUpload/RV.NET-Photo-Upload.html

Oh...the magic link. And where can I find that on my own?

That's a hot link. Click on it and it will take you where you need to be. Then you can save it as a bookmark in your browser ( internet explorer, firefox, etc ). That way you can always find it when you need it.

Bucky Badger wrote:

#1nobby wrote:

gmw photos wrote:
post pics

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/201045551/Forums/PhotoUpload/RV.NET-Photo-Upload.html

Oh...the magic link. And where can I find that on my own?

For some goofy reason they put in under "Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)"

Thank you. Posted a pic:)

#1nobby wrote:
Now I'm confused. I thought I bought that battery for a reason.

"Longest Life: Up to 2x longer service life than regular AGM batteries and 6x longer than conventional flooded batteries"

And capacity seems to be higher than others. What am I missing?
it in my fwd stowage compartment....but I need to drop the chassis enclosure panels to see what's what underneath.

Presumably you did buy this G31 AGM battery for a reason, I was just wondering why a newbie would go to such expense when a conventional lead acid battery is so much less costly and serves the needs of most just fine. :h The size of a battery case is determined by it's BCI Group Number, not whether it's lead acid or AGM or whatever so if you have the space available on your trailer tongue for a G31 AGM then you have the space available for a G31 lead acid. If by "capacity seems to be higher than others" you mean greater than a G27 or G24 then yes of course BUT a G31 lead acid will offer as much and in many cases greater capacity than a much more expensive G31 AGM. Certainly what is true with an AGM is proper maintenance as the cost of replacing it is so much greater than a conventional lead acid battery.

#1nobby wrote:

SoundGuy wrote:

#1nobby wrote:
I bought a new marine battery, as well.
A high performance deep cycle battery....who knew?
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-nautilus-group-31-high-performance-agm-deep-cycle-battery-0103196p.html#.VwmnlHZnY_o

It's a group 31 and with the new box just fits in the "V" of the hitch.

Congrats on your NTU camper. :B However, I'm surprised you would spend so much time & effort searching for a suitable camper and negotiating the price down then turn around a spend so much on a battery, especially from Canadian Tire and especially when it's not on sale, which guaranteed it eventually will be. :h Since you don't have any particular need to mount the battery inside the trailer but instead are mounting it on the A frame where any lead acid battery would normally live that's an awful price to pay for just one battery. :E $530 w/tax for that one AGM could have bought you at least 3 times the capacity in a conventional lead acid battery, or conversely one lead acid battery with greater capacity at 1/3rd the cost. Since for whatever reason you did go with this AGM I'd suggest you also invest the time necessary to learn how to best care for it. ;)

So what would be your suggestion for my restricted space? I ASSumed that the AGM battery would have the higher capacity.

Now I'm confused. I thought I bought that battery for a reason.

"Longest Life: Up to 2x longer service life than regular AGM batteries and 6x longer than conventional flooded batteries"

And capacity seems to be higher than others. What am I missing?

Also....I am toying with the idea of putting it in my fwd stowage compartment....but I need to drop the chassis enclosure panels to see what's what underneath.

A photo....:)

SoundGuy wrote:

#1nobby wrote:
I bought a new marine battery, as well.
A high performance deep cycle battery....who knew?
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-nautilus-group-31-high-performance-agm-deep-cycle-battery-0103196p.html#.VwmnlHZnY_o

It's a group 31 and with the new box just fits in the "V" of the hitch.

Congrats on your NTU camper. :B However, I'm surprised you would spend so much time & effort searching for a suitable camper and negotiating the price down then turn around a spend so much on a battery, especially from Canadian Tire and especially when it's not on sale, which guaranteed it eventually will be. :h Since you don't have any particular need to mount the battery inside the trailer but instead are mounting it on the A frame where any lead acid battery would normally live that's an awful price to pay for just one battery. :E $530 w/tax for that one AGM could have bought you at least 3 times the capacity in a conventional lead acid battery, or conversely one lead acid battery with greater capacity at 1/3rd the cost. Since for whatever reason you did go with this AGM I'd suggest you also invest the time necessary to learn how to best care for it. ;)

So what would be your suggestion for my restricted space? I ASSumed that the AGM battery would have the higher capacity.

#1nobby wrote:

gmw photos wrote:
post pics

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/201045551/Forums/PhotoUpload/RV.NET-Photo-Upload.html

Oh...the magic link. And where can I find that on my own?

For some goofy reason they put in under "Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)"

#1nobby wrote:

gmw photos wrote:
post pics

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/201045551/Forums/PhotoUpload/RV.NET-Photo-Upload.html

Oh...the magic link. And where can I find that on my own?

That's a hot link. Click on it and it will take you where you need to be. Then you can save it as a bookmark in your browser ( internet explorer, firefox, etc ). That way you can always find it when you need it.

#1nobby wrote:
I bought a new marine battery, as well.
A high performance deep cycle battery....who knew?
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-nautilus-group-31-high-performance-agm-deep-cycle-battery-0103196p.html#.VwmnlHZnY_o

It's a group 31 and with the new box just fits in the "V" of the hitch.

Congrats on your NTU camper. :B However, I'm surprised you would spend so much time & effort searching for a suitable camper and negotiating the price down then turn around a spend so much on a battery, especially from Canadian Tire and especially when it's not on sale, which guaranteed it eventually will be. :h Since you don't have any particular need to mount the battery inside the trailer but instead are mounting it on the A frame where any lead acid battery would normally live that's an awful price to pay for just one battery. :E $530 w/tax for that one AGM could have bought you at least 3 times the capacity in a conventional lead acid battery, or conversely one lead acid battery with greater capacity at 1/3rd the cost. Since for whatever reason you did go with this AGM I'd suggest you also invest the time necessary to learn how to best care for it. ;)