Newer diesel with least problems

You get 15 mpg (or more) with camper on your 6.2 ?
That is what the "lower operating cost" would suggest.

I carry my Northern Lite with my 2017 F350 with the 6.2 gas engine. I also tow my ATV trailer and ATV, coolers, gas etc. behind it. It handles everything just fine and I have never felt I needed a diesel for my needs.
I am not against diesels at all and used to have a 7.3 back in the day, just don't need one now and I really do like the lower operating costs of the 6.2.

"Troll" is having several definitions, but in this case the one who applies is
"person who having no arguments in the dispute revers to personal attacks"
Adding more to the main dispute. New technology is exciting when it works, but can be nightmare when it doesn't.
My 440 HP truck is a beast in traffic and with 6000lb camper still average close to 13 mpg.
But driving Mercedes diesels for decades - the DPF and AddBlue with dozens of $500 sensors that "like to fail occasionally" -choosing the dependable vehicle is hard decision.
To top it, manufacturers on new vehicles invented SCN codding, where even if you manage to replace sensor, you still have to go to dealer for coding who require subscription.
Bottom line, several diesel owners sold newer cars and bought older models, who did not have all those electronics.
MPG will suffer, but they drive without much worries.
With trucks you don't have that many choices. The 7.3l Fords I sold were beaten up, noisy and HP suck, but if you own one of them in good shape >>> keep it.

Jim stop feeding the troll.....

Kayteg1 wrote:
I bet you don't see heavy moderation on this forum neither?

You obviously don’t understand what heavy moderation means just like you don’t understand what Fiat taking over means or why diesel truck engines cost more than gasoline engines. A reasonable person would think moderators were checking your credentials for your “facts” before realizing that they aren’t “facts”.

Standard internet moderation is to hit delete when threads go off the rails. It prevents the BS that you see otherwise.

BradW wrote:
Does it matter what brand def I put in my 2018 f350?

Brad, All brands must meet the exact same ISO standard, but DEF is perishable and has a defined shelf life, that should be understood before purchasing, as follows...

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DEF is also temperature sensitive when in storage (acceptable range: 12df to 86df),and should not be stored in direct sunlight...

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Congrats on your new truck, I doubt you’ll be disappointed...

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jimh425 wrote:


I don't find Ford Truck Forum heavily moderated if you don't make stuff up like this ...

Fiat is actually failing, sales are awful.. Not exactly taking over.

Most diesels are ok now even with emissions, but they still aren't perfect.

I bet you don't see heavy moderation on this forum neither?
That's the beauty of dictatorship - all evidence vanish without a trace.
I was posting facts about diesel on FTE and after one of stronger replies, 7 forum moderators visited my profile. How is that for no moderation?
If you read the link you provided - Fiat sold 26,492 vehicles in USA last year. Not bad for country where 10 years ago everybody was saying "you will never see me in 1 of those"
I was driving twin Fiat 126 about 40 years ago.
It was consider "poor man vehicle" in communistic Poland at the time.
Now, coming back to topic- diesels are not cheap to buy from US manufacturers, while back in 1998 diesel engine in Mercedes E-class was the cheapest version available in USA.
Tell me that $8000 premium for diesel by Ford and others is not politically motivated?
So would diesel sell for their actuall value like they do in Europe, nobody would ever want gasoline truck.

Does it matter what brand def I put in my 2018 f350?

jat4 wrote:
Which one of the builders has the diesel and the DEF on opposite sides of the truck? that would be a deal breaker for me, you'd have to turn the vehicle around when fueling, what a pain.

Regarding adding DEF, Ford had the better idea, who placed the fill pipe next to the diesel fill. GM blew it regarding convenience in refilling as they put the filler on the firewall on the passenger side. I’ve filled my diesel and DEF from the same parking spot, but it takes precise positioning as the DEF hoses usually aren’t very long and just make it stretching it across the engine bay to reach the filler pipe. Some stations have DEF pumps on both sides which simplifies the process. Someone with a Dodge will speak up as to how those work, as I don’t know how they accomplish their refill procedure.

I think all three of the big guys are stable/reliable at this point. For me when I was shopping it came down to: which cab/truck bed fit the camper and what brand had the cab model in stock that I desired?