Nissan Titan - Diesel Goodness

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

No V-8 diesel can make better mileage than the in-line Cummins.

Say what???? :R Stop being silly!!

You need to tell that to these guys.

And both of the V8's put out about 50 more horsepower than the little slant 6 and still beat it in mileage!! :B

In 2011, Ford and GM were using DEF. Ram was still using EGR for NOX until 2013. You need to compare likes with likes. I don't know how the 2013's and later compare.

On edit. I6's are naturally balanced allowing them to use bigger displacement cylinders which is good for low rpm torque. V8's are naturally unbalanced but smaller bores and shorter crankshafts allow them to run at higher RPM giving them more HP potential. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.

BillyW wrote:
And speaking of the price of diesel, I just returned from Indiana, where the going price was $.40/gal CHEAPER that regular unleaded.

About the same here. 90 cents cheaper than premium which the EB likes for towing.

brulaz wrote:
And the V8 should run smoother (less vibration and quieter as a result).

An I6 configuration is actually inherently smoother than a V8 configuration because the forces cancel out naturally.

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otrfun wrote:
WSJ, May 2015, car/truck sales numbers (sales, marketshare, etc.). Chevy light trucks seem to be doing well.

That looks like the source I remember about the pickup truck market share but cannot find it now. It showed both Ford and GM with about 35% each and 20% for Chrysler/Ram. Both Ford and Ram were flat year over year but GM was up on a year over year comparison.

In the fourth quarter of 2009, when the new Ram division’s trucks were hitting the streets, the company eked out a paltry 11 percent of the market share for full-size trucks. The two other Detroit automakers were lapping Chrysler around the track, with shares of 42 percent for G.M. and 37 percent for Ford. Since then Ram has conquered more and more of the market every year. In August, when sales surged 33 percent over a year earlier, Ram commanded 21 percent of full-size pickup purchases in the United States.

Most of that success has come at the expense of G.M.’s Chevrolet Silverado pickup, which despite its own recent redesign has lost market share this year. Ford’s F-Series pickups remain the overall market leader, but their sales have also dipped this summer as the automaker prepares to introduce a new generation of trucks made with an aluminum body. Link

IT, if you don't know the difference between a slant six and an in-line six you are a bigger clown then I gave you credit for LMAO.

BTW Ford sales of their F-series -4.6% in march Chevy +7.0% GMC +3.2% Ram -2.2%

Ram sales

Ford sales

All truck sales march 15

Maybe if you weren't such a troll people wouldn't argue.

Oh well have to go to bed working 12 days 7 days a week for the past three months at the plant that is slowing down. Hay just a little FACT for you IT. I noticed Ford is the ONLY car company laying people off. Flat Rock Plant to end third shift do to POOR sales. No GM or FCA plants laying off.

WSJ, May 2015, car/truck sales numbers (sales, marketshare, etc.). Chevy light trucks seem to be doing well.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:


Fact, Ram trucks are taking market share from both Ford and the GM twins every quarter so someone must like them.

Are you sure about that? I know and have read the Ram trucks have made impressive sales gains. But the entire segment has also increased. I have not read where Ram has actually increased their market share relative to Ford and GM. Last I read Rams market share was flat. But that was from the 1st quarter this year I believe.

That inline six diesel is a LOT bigger than the 5L V8. Doesn't that have something to do with mileage? And the V8 should run smoother (less vibration and quieter as a result). Probably more expensive to maintain though, and, boy, there's lots of chain running around the front end. Hope that works out better than it did in my 2005 Passat TDI.

As for the 6 lug wheels, yeah, we have to see the GAWR and base axle curb weights. It may have greater than 2000# payload, but can you drop 2000# on that nifty, built-in gooseneck ball? Looks like the 10.5" rear diff and the rest of the drive train can handle it. There are much bigger trucks running around with 6 lug wheels though, so it is possible.

And then there's the Exhaust Brake question. Both the original Cummins 5L ISV and this one with the Holset M2 turbo have exhaust brake functionality, from what I've read. But nowhere does Nissan talk about it or how/if it is implemented. They do mention hill descent control but only in conjunction with the transmission. Nobody has been able to find a switch for it in the cab. It would be stupid not to have it, and the guy running this program comes from RAM so he should know that. My guess is that it may be integrated with the Tow/haul function. But nobody really knows.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Fact, my dealer does Eco-diesel oil changes for $65 + tax with a tire rotation and fills all fluids.

Just reporting what guys in a Ram forum are seeing. Why would they lie?

They must love loosing money then. The Oil Filter is $44

Edmunds paid over $100

Sorry, the oil changes are expensive and as always you find some reason to argue.

Fact, Ram trucks are taking market share from both Ford and the GM twins every quarter so someone must like them.

FACT: It is slowing down. Ram is starting to loose again and will be back at the bottom where it belongs. It's also not true. Ford and GM are also increasing their sales numbers so no "taking of market share". For is #1, GM is close behind and Ram is a distant 3rd.

FACT: Ram has the most money on the hood leading to Fiat looking for buyers/mergers yet again.

People will tend to buy what's cheapest.

The Nissan is a nice looking truck.

You should get back to building substandard vehicles.