Towing PUP with Rav4

The Texan wrote:
CT in New England, is one of the worst about refusal to sign and in the US all states have a compact where every state honors the others suspension of the DL for failure to appear or comply with any summons or citation......No skin off my nose, but before you cut off your own nose for spite, you might want to think of the full consequences. Also, WI, on the Canadian border, is another that is a bear with the refusal and non compliance.......Just a heads up.

We were talking about fining for not meeting DOT requirements???????..why are you still talking about noncompliance?....if I get pulled over and cited for no brakes on my "never had brakes Popup" I will sign the citation leave the state and never pay it...simple...just said I would sign but they are not going to escort me to a garage to spend thousands to install brakes.

CT in New England, is one of the worst about refusal to sign and in the US all states have a compact where every state honors the others suspension of the DL for failure to appear or comply with any summons or citation......No skin off my nose, but before you cut off your own nose for spite, you might want to think of the full consequences. Also, WI, on the Canadian border, is another that is a bear with the refusal and non compliance.......Just a heads up.

The Texan wrote:

Road Ruler wrote:

popupcamping wrote:
We have a law here in Canada as well that vehicles must have daytime running lamps but we do not stop every American vehicle because they are not complying....we must be a nicer kinder nation....A Leo would have a battle telling me I have to go get brakes on my American made DOT approved pop up that never had brakes ever.

Well put!

Just remember, most states plus Canadian Provinces have this, or a very similar law . Push it and they can arrest you for failure to sign a citation and in several states, if you are from out of state, the state laws require an arrest.

oh...I would sign it I just would never comply....it would be the last time that useless state saw me and my money ever for being so stupid...I don't think this would ever happen in the New England states and that is all I care about....I really believe it would never happen anywhere....out of state plated vehicles should and I believe in the eyes of most intelligent Leos be exempt.. but if you want to put a google link showing case and point I will read it.

Road Ruler wrote:

popupcamping wrote:
We have a law here in Canada as well that vehicles must have daytime running lamps but we do not stop every American vehicle because they are not complying....we must be a nicer kinder nation....A Leo would have a battle telling me I have to go get brakes on my American made DOT approved pop up that never had brakes ever.

Well put!

Just remember, most states plus Canadian Provinces have this, or a very similar law . Push it and they can arrest you for failure to sign a citation and in several states, if you are from out of state, the state laws require an arrest.

popupcamping wrote:
We have a law here in Canada as well that vehicles must have daytime running lamps but we do not stop every American vehicle because they are not complying....we must be a nicer kinder nation....A Leo would have a battle telling me I have to go get brakes on my American made DOT approved pop up that never had brakes ever.

Well put!

AirForceAngler wrote:

The Texan wrote:
You are getting some bad legal advice by a Canadian that has NO bearing in truth for the US. If a state says that you must have brakes on ANY trailer over 1500# or above, then I do NOT care what or how your trailer was delivered, you can and in most cases will, be cited for improper equipment. Also, if you travel from one state that says brakes on 3000# into a state that says brakes on 1500#, you do not have reciprocity and MUST comply with the state you are operating in at that time. Reciprocity ONLY exist on drivers license, vehicle registrations and insurance coverage, period. ALL vehicle equipment is IAW the laws of the state you are driving in, NOT your home state.

That is why I tell folks, make sure your trailer has brakes on at least 1 axle, if the weight exceeds 1500#.

This is not true at all. Look at window tint. Some states allow the front-side windows to be tinted, some do not. If you're driving a tinted car registered in a state that allows it, through a state that does not allow it, you are not illegal and they're not going to make you rip the tint off. You have to follow the laws of the state you're vehicle is registered in as far as equipment is concerned. No state is going to give someone a ticket for not having brakes on a trailer if the state the trailer is registered in does not require it.

Lots of people are very mis-informed. Do some research. Vehicle laws are "state" specific and all you have to do is use Google instead of trying to tell folks who enforced the laws, they do NOT know what they are saying.

The Texan wrote:
You are getting some bad legal advice by a Canadian that has NO bearing in truth for the US. If a state says that you must have brakes on ANY trailer over 1500# or above, then I do NOT care what or how your trailer was delivered, you can and in most cases will, be cited for improper equipment. Also, if you travel from one state that says brakes on 3000# into a state that says brakes on 1500#, you do not have reciprocity and MUST comply with the state you are operating in at that time. Reciprocity ONLY exist on drivers license, vehicle registrations and insurance coverage, period. ALL vehicle equipment is IAW the laws of the state you are driving in, NOT your home state.

That is why I tell folks, make sure your trailer has brakes on at least 1 axle, if the weight exceeds 1500#.

This is not true at all. Look at window tint. Some states allow the front-side windows to be tinted, some do not. If you're driving a tinted car registered in a state that allows it, through a state that does not allow it, you are not illegal and they're not going to make you rip the tint off. You have to follow the laws of the state you're vehicle is registered in as far as equipment is concerned. No state is going to give someone a ticket for not having brakes on a trailer if the state the trailer is registered in does not require it.

We have a law here in Canada as well that vehicles must have daytime running lamps but we do not stop every American vehicle because they are not complying....we must be a nicer kinder nation....A Leo would have a battle telling me I have to go get brakes on my American made DOT approved pop up that never had brakes ever.

You are getting some bad legal advice by a Canadian that has NO bearing in truth for the US. If a state says that you must have brakes on ANY trailer over 1500# or above, then I do NOT care what or how your trailer was delivered, you can and in most cases will, be cited for improper equipment. Also, if you travel from one state that says brakes on 3000# into a state that says brakes on 1500#, you do not have reciprocity and MUST comply with the state you are operating in at that time. Reciprocity ONLY exist on drivers license, vehicle registrations and insurance coverage, period. ALL vehicle equipment is IAW the laws of the state you are driving in, NOT your home state.

That is why I tell folks, make sure your trailer has brakes on at least 1 axle, if the weight exceeds 1500#.

xteacher wrote:
I towed an Aliner with a V6 Rav4 with no problems - about the same weight. I would definitely recommend trailer brakes/brake controller! Many states have laws that require trailer brakes for trailers over 2000 lb. Ours was around 2000 lb. Better safe than sorry!

We upgraded our tow vehicle to a Nissan Pathfinder only for our comfort and ability to carry more "stuff", as well as having more room for our 3 dogs.

A state cant fine or impound a trailer that NEVER had brakes from the factory irregardless of what they weigh.

Most if not all 10 foot hardtops are under 2000 empty. Brakes are just an option. I wouldn't worry a second about brakes. Find a nice popup and hook up and go....happy camping