Feb-13-2018 11:13 AM
Feb-17-2018 11:31 AM
RedLionCookie wrote:
Just to follow up. I do live in Pennsylvania and I certainly appreciate all the information and points of view you all are providing. I didn’t take my truck to a scale and weigh it but I did go through my paperwork and it appears the shipping weight of my truck was just under 6400 lbs. I have a 30 gallon fuel tank so I’ll add 200 lbs for fuel. It’s me, my wife and 3 dogs. I’ll add another 600 lbs for us and another 200 for the hitch and whatever else we might throw in to make it an even 1000 lbs..
So here is my new math 10,000 - 6,400 - 1,000 = 2,600.
Based on the post from the GD owner saying loaded with no water he is at 2100 pin weight with no water. He also said he was at 10,100 total weight. Based on all of this I’ll pin weight shouldn’t be a problem and although I’ll be pushing the 10 ,000 lb payload if I’m controlled with what I pack I should be ok. And now back to your regularly scheduled program. Does anyone have something similar to the. GD 29 RS in my weight category they like? The 29RS has a rear living room with an outside kitchen.
Feb-16-2018 04:19 AM
Feb-15-2018 08:08 PM
MACHZER wrote:I have lived in the Minneapolis are for over 50 years. I frequently travel west on Interstate 94 and have never seen a privately owned RV pulled over to be weighed. In addition I have never seen a pickup, RV or anything else being checked for emissions equipment. Are you sure you were in Minnesota??Walaby wrote:MACHZER wrote:
They scale in Canada so they go more by payload than anything else.
As early mentioned, weight the truck full of gear and fuel and passengers
Subtract from your GVWR 10,000 for most 3/4 tons and there is your allowable pin weight
That simple
OP's not from Canada, unless PA stands for something other than Pennsylvania.
Two schools of thought.. those who swear by and live by the GVWR, and those who go by the GAWR. Your choice which way you go, but many folks (myself included) understand that the GVWR of a 3/4 is generally artificially capped at 10,000, and the truck is more capable than that. Hence the recommendation to use GAWR and not exceed that.
As others have said, you have weight on your rear axle with nothing in your bed. That is why you need to weigh the truck, full of fuel, and use the value that represents the drive axle weight. Subtract the drive axle weight from the GAWR, and that tells you how much capacity you have left for the pin weight of your 5er.
Mike
Yes, I am in Canada, however I was leaving Minneapolis going west on the interstate and just outside of the city, they where pulling over all trucks and RV's checking that emission components were on the truck and weighing trucks with Rv trailers, Funny, only weighted the truck with trailer attached. I was happy I was not in my deleted truck that time! I had no RV either but was watching others being scaled. Only thing they could be checking is GVWR
To the OP, do what you want of course its your rig!
You cannot change the gross payload of your truck no matter how you think it should work or how you want to play with the numbers
You truck LEGALLY cannot go over your GVWR, (10,000) with your trailer attached. That's why it's there on your sticker. You have an accident it could be a factor if a lawyer is on the ball which most are. I am going through the same thing now with my 2016 F350 SWR long box with a 11,500 GVWR, after I weighted the truck which came in at 9200, that only leaves me with only a payload or pin weight of 2,300. 5th wheel toy hauler now out the window
Again its your truck and ultimately you have to decide. Pick a great camper and have fun! Later
Feb-15-2018 03:51 PM
MACHZER wrote:
You truck LEGALLY cannot go over your GVWR, (10,000) with your trailer attached. That's why it's there on your sticker.
MACHZER wrote:
Not sure about the Laws in the USA regarding being over GVWR.
MACHIZER wrote:
THe Grand Design RV are real nice and will be our next trailer for sure!
GREAT CHOICE!
Feb-15-2018 06:52 AM
Feb-15-2018 06:37 AM
MACHZER wrote:
Yes, I am in Canada, however I was leaving Minneapolis going west on the interstate and just outside of the city, they where pulling over all trucks and RV's checking that emission components were on the truck and weighing trucks with Rv trailers, Funny, only weighted the truck with trailer attached. I was happy I was not in my deleted truck that time! I had no RV either but was watching others being scaled. Only thing they could be checking is GVWR
Feb-15-2018 05:39 AM
Feb-15-2018 04:39 AM
Feb-15-2018 03:19 AM
MACHZER wrote:There is no law in the US that forbids non-commercial vehicles from exceeding their GVWR.
...You truck LEGALLY cannot go over your GVWR, (10,000) with your trailer attached. That's why it's there on your sticker. You have an accident it could be a factor if a lawyer is on the ball which most are. I am going through the same thing now with my 2016 F350 SWR long box with a 11,500 GVWR, after I weighted the truck which came in at 9200, that only leaves me with only a payload or pin weight of 2,300. 5th wheel toy hauler now out the window
Again its your truck and ultimately you have to decide. Pick a great camper and have fun! Later
Feb-15-2018 01:28 AM
Feb-14-2018 11:00 PM
Walaby wrote:MACHZER wrote:
They scale in Canada so they go more by payload than anything else.
As early mentioned, weight the truck full of gear and fuel and passengers
Subtract from your GVWR 10,000 for most 3/4 tons and there is your allowable pin weight
That simple
OP's not from Canada, unless PA stands for something other than Pennsylvania.
Two schools of thought.. those who swear by and live by the GVWR, and those who go by the GAWR. Your choice which way you go, but many folks (myself included) understand that the GVWR of a 3/4 is generally artificially capped at 10,000, and the truck is more capable than that. Hence the recommendation to use GAWR and not exceed that.
As others have said, you have weight on your rear axle with nothing in your bed. That is why you need to weigh the truck, full of fuel, and use the value that represents the drive axle weight. Subtract the drive axle weight from the GAWR, and that tells you how much capacity you have left for the pin weight of your 5er.
Mike
Feb-14-2018 02:52 PM
MACHZER wrote:
They scale in Canada so they go more by payload than anything else.
As early mentioned, weight the truck full of gear and fuel and passengers
Subtract from your GVWR 10,000 for most 3/4 tons and there is your allowable pin weight
That simple
Feb-14-2018 12:23 PM
Feb-14-2018 10:09 AM