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sgordon_lazydaz
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Sep 06, 2021

Batteries won't hold charge - need help

Hi All,

Newbie here so please excuse any ignorance. I have a 1992 class c Lazy Daze with a Chevrolet G30 cab.

I purchase her in March and drove every week/weekend with no problems for about 3-4 months. Went to go move her one day and both car battery and house battery were completely dead. Discovered I had left a small fan on for two days (oops) so it made sense. I replaced both batteries and made sure nothing else had been left on. Drove around for a couple days, then- bam - wouldn't start again. Both batteries dead- this time nothing was left on and nothing was draining power. Had a mechanic come out and alternator was reading as dead so I had the alternator replaced and once again replaced both batteries- started up no problem. Next day I drove her for about 3 hours, still no problems. Day after that, both batteries dead again. After doing some research I discovered the purpose of the isolator. So, my question to you all is- do we think if I replace the isolator (seems easy enough to replace myself) that this will solve the problem? Or do we think it's necessary to have it towed to an RV mechanic? I'm in a bit of a tight spot as I'm in the process of moving into her full time and leaving a failing relationship so will take any help I can get to have this fixed asap.

I've gone ahead and ordered a new isolator (same as the current one installed - diode) that will arrive tomorrow. I will try and replace my car battery though Autozone warranty for the 4th?? time but not sure if they will give me another within the warranty.

Please help!
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  • sgordon_lazydaz's avatar
    sgordon_lazydaz
    Explorer
    Oct 10, 2021
    Hi everyone. Ole girl is back on comms :) Sorry for the delay as the past month has probably been the most difficult of my life. I'm settled now full time in my RV at a park. I wanted to thank this community for helping me trouble shoot this and let everyone know that the problem was indeed a bad isolator. Hope this helps anyone who is having the same issue.

    Sorry again for the delayed response.
  • Bordercollie's avatar
    Bordercollie
    Explorer
    Sep 27, 2021
    Try to find a good RV electrical systems technician. Some RV repair shops can refer you to a good one. This may save you a lot of frustration and get the problem(s) isolated and corrected quickly. Watch what the tech does and you may learn from it. Good luck!
  • Bordercollie's avatar
    Bordercollie
    Explorer
    Sep 08, 2021
    Call some RV repair shops and ask for the number of a good RV electrical troubleshooting/repair guy. This may cost some money but may solve the problem quickly. You will eventually learn how the chassis alternator charges the house battery(s) and chassis battery while you are driving, and how the converter/charger converts 120vac "shore" power to 12volts to charge your house battery(s) and power your internal lights, furnace blower, fresh water pump, appliance controls, and other 12 volt DC items. Not simple but critical to enjoying your RV.
  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
    Navigator
    Sep 07, 2021
    Lotta possibilities here, including the advice to find the "drain" on the batteries.
    Look back at probability of that though. If nothing was draining the batteries a few months ago, what have you done since, that would?

    I'll list a bunch of stuff to be mindful of or check
    1. "New" alternator could be bad. Strong chance if it actually, assuming it's a reman alternator. If since the alternator, you only drive it a few hours, could be enough juice used to kill the batteries.
    2. Dead battery doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be replaced, although deep discharge doesn't help the longevity. Do you not have a simple battery charger and somewhere to get power from?
    3. Disconnect house battery and run it (with start battery charged). Does the starting battery go dead without being hooked to the "house?" And vice versa. Charge house battery, disconnect it from the isolator and does it just go dead or not?
    4. How hacked up is the electrical in this unit? The more jerry rigged it is, the more chance of an errant power draw or bad connections, etc.
    5.
  • pianotuna's avatar
    pianotuna
    Nomad III
    Sep 07, 2021
    Test the isolation device before replacing it.

    I prefer a solenoid for disconnecting house from starter.
  • 2_many_2's avatar
    2_many_2
    Explorer III
    Sep 07, 2021
    Some older RV refrigerators have this:
    "The climate control switch (sometimes called a humidity switch).is used to control frost that may collect during very high humidity situations. The RV refrigerator climate control Switch controls a 12-volt heat tape behind the metal frame around the refrigerator and freezer doors."

    This switch is often a small toggle switch semi hidden on the frame of the door on the fridge. Even when the fridge is off, if this switch is left in the "On" position, it continues to draw power.

    This was a common problem when the switch was overlooked causing dead batteries for seemingly no reason.
  • bobndot's avatar
    bobndot
    Explorer II
    Sep 06, 2021
    Still a bit confused on how to check where the source of drain is coming from as this is all new to me but will study over everyones notes and try and locate the power drain.


    You can use an inexpensive multi-meter . Hook up meter using the amp setting. Disconnect the negative cable off battery of choice to test things on the coach or chassis side.
    Hope this vid helps and explains the ‘how to use’ a mm to test.

    https://youtu.be/KF1gijj03_0
  • bgum's avatar
    bgum
    Explorer
    Sep 06, 2021
    You installed an inverter is that when your problems started?
  • Gary45's avatar
    Gary45
    Explorer
    Sep 06, 2021
    Just remove the (charging) wire from the house battery, you should be able to charge the vehicle battery and start it. You can hook your charger up to vehicle ground and the disconnected house battery charging wire to charge house battery. Then one of the batteries will discharge quickly pointing you to the problem.

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won't hold charge - need help","id":"message:3552126","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":24,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:198261"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3552126"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3552126"},"body":"Hi All,

Newbie here so please excuse any ignorance. I have a 1992 class c Lazy Daze with a Chevrolet G30 cab.

I purchase her in March and drove every week/weekend with no problems for about 3-4 months. Went to go move her one day and both car battery and house battery were completely dead. Discovered I had left a small fan on for two days (oops) so it made sense. I replaced both batteries and made sure nothing else had been left on. Drove around for a couple days, then- bam - wouldn't start again. Both batteries dead- this time nothing was left on and nothing was draining power. Had a mechanic come out and alternator was reading as dead so I had the alternator replaced and once again replaced both batteries- started up no problem. Next day I drove her for about 3 hours, still no problems. Day after that, both batteries dead again. After doing some research I discovered the purpose of the isolator. So, my question to you all is- do we think if I replace the isolator (seems easy enough to replace myself) that this will solve the problem? Or do we think it's necessary to have it towed to an RV mechanic? I'm in a bit of a tight spot as I'm in the process of moving into her full time and leaving a failing relationship so will take any help I can get to have this fixed asap.

I've gone ahead and ordered a new isolator (same as the current one installed - diode) that will arrive tomorrow. I will try and replace my car battery though Autozone warranty for the 4th?? time but not sure if they will give me another within the warranty.

Please help!","body@stringLength":"1609","rawBody":"Hi All,

Newbie here so please excuse any ignorance. I have a 1992 class c Lazy Daze with a Chevrolet G30 cab.

I purchase her in March and drove every week/weekend with no problems for about 3-4 months. Went to go move her one day and both car battery and house battery were completely dead. Discovered I had left a small fan on for two days (oops) so it made sense. I replaced both batteries and made sure nothing else had been left on. Drove around for a couple days, then- bam - wouldn't start again. Both batteries dead- this time nothing was left on and nothing was draining power. Had a mechanic come out and alternator was reading as dead so I had the alternator replaced and once again replaced both batteries- started up no problem. Next day I drove her for about 3 hours, still no problems. Day after that, both batteries dead again. After doing some research I discovered the purpose of the isolator. So, my question to you all is- do we think if I replace the isolator (seems easy enough to replace myself) that this will solve the problem? Or do we think it's necessary to have it towed to an RV mechanic? I'm in a bit of a tight spot as I'm in the process of moving into her full time and leaving a failing relationship so will take any help I can get to have this fixed asap.

I've gone ahead and ordered a new isolator (same as the current one installed - diode) that will arrive tomorrow. I will try and replace my car battery though Autozone warranty for the 4th?? time but not sure if they will give me another within the warranty.

Please help!","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2021-09-06T11:59:23.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuM3wyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:Class C","text":"Class C","time":"2002-02-25T19:07:57.000-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3552126_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":6844},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"searchSnippet":"Hi All, Newbie here so please excuse any ignorance. 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Ole girl is back on comms :) Sorry for the delay as the past month has probably been the most difficult of my life. I'm settled now full time in my RV at a park. I wanted to thank this community for helping me trouble shoot this and let everyone know that the problem was indeed a bad isolator. Hope this helps anyone who is having the same issue.

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This may cost some money but may solve the problem quickly. You will eventually learn how the chassis alternator charges the house battery(s) and chassis battery while you are driving, and how the converter/charger converts 120vac \"shore\" power to 12volts to charge your house battery(s) and power your internal lights, furnace blower, fresh water pump, appliance controls, and other 12 volt DC items. 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Look back at probability of that though. If nothing was draining the batteries a few months ago, what have you done since, that would?

I'll list a bunch of stuff to be mindful of or check
1. \"New\" alternator could be bad. Strong chance if it actually, assuming it's a reman alternator. If since the alternator, you only drive it a few hours, could be enough juice used to kill the batteries.
2. Dead battery doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be replaced, although deep discharge doesn't help the longevity. Do you not have a simple battery charger and somewhere to get power from?
3. Disconnect house battery and run it (with start battery charged). Does the starting battery go dead without being hooked to the \"house?\" And vice versa. Charge house battery, disconnect it from the isolator and does it just go dead or not?
4. How hacked up is the electrical in this unit? The more jerry rigged it is, the more chance of an errant power draw or bad connections, etc.
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Still a bit confused on how to check where the source of drain is coming from as this is all new to me but will study over everyones notes and try and locate the power drain.


You can use an inexpensive multi-meter . Hook up meter using the amp setting. Disconnect the negative cable off battery of choice to test things on the coach or chassis side.
Hope this vid helps and explains the ‘how to use’ a mm to test.

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