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Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
While researching these pages for my next Motor Home I saw a few threads discussing Rentals, most were Pros and Cons but very few posts from people who had purchased one.

I thought it may be a good resource and helpful to hear from these people. The good, the bad, what they liked and what they didnโ€™t. Also if they had any problems, things they changed, if they would recommend this to others or do it again.

Here is my story: I am not a novice, having owned a Class A for more than 15 years and doing the camping thing with my wife and two daughters, I can say โ€œbeen there done thatโ€ But life changes, and I sold everything so I have been away from this for several years. Starting over I lurked here for a while and got a lot of good insight then went looking.

My criteria was: A Class C within by budget, less than 30 feet so I can keep it at home, saving storage $, a rear bed, and a lot of storage space.

What fit that was Winnebago, Fleetwood and a few others, what I found mostly was Jamboree / Tioga 26Q. In the year models 2002 thru 2006. I did my home work looking at NADA and other sites to find the fair prices for the models that I was looking for.

After several months of searching the internet, Craigslist, private ads and Dealerships for a Class C that suited my budget and needs, this is what I found. Of the dozen or so I inquired about.Most were upsidedown in their payments, owing more than they were worth. All were on Ford Chassis, 7 needed tires, all had the original 7 to 10 year old tires, and they all needed repair of the awning and most needed some work inside or out and the maintenance records were sketchy, but most had low mileage. The Dealerships offerings were better but they had a profit margin to maintain so I got older models within my budget or huge up sales that didnโ€™t work for me.

My next step was looking at the rental market for sales. In my area there are 2 large companies that have rental sales, Cruise America and El Monte RV,who also sell Class A RVs.

First up was El Monte RV Their units are production RVs that are made by major manufactures, with TV antennas and hookups inside and out, Ducted A/C and heat, 2 house batteries, a rear ladder and parts are readily available from those manufactureโ€™s. I looked at their web site and it detailed their warranty and what was checked and serviced by their factory trained technicians. The unit I looked at was like new inside, the upholstery on all the seats was new as was the floor mat in the driverโ€™s area, it had a new mattress, still in plastic and a new bedspread. All of the curtains were new also. Newer (2010 mfg date) tires with 98% rubber and the mileage was ninety thousand (90,000).

Then there was Cruise America: Their units that I looked at seemed to be Spartan,no TV antenna or hookups for one,non-ducted A/C,small counter space and only one battery, no rear ladder for inspection and maintenance of roof and built just for them, they were all โ€œrefreshedโ€ their words not mine. They offered extended warranties at a huge cost. All had high mileage, one hundred and thirty thousand (130,000) or more and the price range seemed a little high. The sales staff had a take it or leave it attitude and were not very forthcoming when asked about maintenance records and service,they claim to have proprietary info in those records,It doesn't seem to be a problem for El Monte RV.

At El Monte RV I took a test ride; This Unit was a 2006 Tioga 26Q on a Chevrolet Chassis it rode
Drove and handled much better than the Fords that I had driven. It also had more leg room and was quieter. We got back and I asked about the service and maintenance on it, the salesman, Joey, handed me a 28 page single spaced document asked if I wanted some coffee or something to drink and said โ€œread this and if you have any questions I will answer themโ€.

It detailed everything that was done before and after each rental, the mileage, generator hours and hours billed. Each time it was washed and detailed inside and outside, all fluids were checked and replenished if needed, the holding tanks were washed, LP system was checked for leaks, all torque on wheel lugs were checked, brakes front and rear checked for wear and cracks, pressure in tires, all appliances, generator oil, lights inside and outside, the list goes on and on.

It also listed all oil changes,coolant change,trans service,fuel injector service and cleaning,fuel filters,air filter, new brakes, all repairs and replacements all with date, mileage and time spent in complete detail from day one to when it was pulled from the rental fleet and was refurbished. I have a complete service record on this vehicle.Also the service records on the Onan Generator,all oil changes,air filter and spark plug replacement with hours and date. I negotiated a good deal with them and am very happy with my purchase.

It came with a 1 yr. 12000 mile power train warranty and 30 day on all appliances. It also came with a 28 page maintenance record that detailed everything. Also the original sales packet from Fleetwood with the manual and serial numbers on all appliances,refrigerator, microwave,furnace, AC, water heater, etc. and the manual for the Chassis. I have had no problems with it so far.

(ON EDIT) 5 Years and close to 14000 miles.Just Scheduled Maintenance and new tires,old ones were at the 5 year mark and I wanted new Michelin LTX M/S2s.

There were a few things that it didnโ€™t have as it was a rental and the ones from private parties did have.
โ€ข Power steps, outside Stereo/CD donโ€™t need or want them.
โ€ข An Awning, this I wanted and had installed. A Swivel Seat and a new Window in The Door that I installed.
โ€ข Wheel Simulators, I like the looks so I had them installed and at the same time had Tire Man valve stem kit put on.
โ€ข Replaced the Chinese WFCO with a US Made converter/charger
โ€ข It came with mini blinds and not the day/night that most have, these are more practical and have a lot less failure.
  • It also came with Stainless Steel sinks,easier to maintain than the cheap plastic ones that come in the noncommercial units.

I am very happy with my Rig, it suites my needs and it was in my Budget range, I think I got a good deal.

So if you bought a rental please share your experience here for others to use as a resource.
Or if there are any other questions that have not been covered in these pages, just ask, there are many helpful people on this thread.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C
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Soh_Crates
Explorer
Explorer
Hello! We just bought a 28A from CA. ๐Ÿ™‚
There have been some ups and downs(mostly the salesman we got) but we are on the road and enjoying the rv life!
Hard rain the night before flooded the concrete parking lot with about an inch of water, made for a great foot rinser before getting back in rv ๐Ÿ™‚ White Sands National Monument

jetmechtm
Explorer
Explorer
Thanks IMICHABOD, I just hadn't posted. I follow the thread and am planning a lot of travel in the next year. I may come out of retirement for about 6 months and do some contract work as an aircraft mechanic. I will travel and work 2 to 3 month jobs doing modifications while living in my RV kinda sorta workamping in my own way.

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
Good to hear back from you jetmechtm,after more than a year,sorry to hear about your problem with the transmission,and good that you have had no other problems.

It is also good to hear that El Monte's 1 year or 12,000 mile warranty worked out for you and they stood behind the warranty.

BTW you are #48 on the list of Former Rental Owners!

Go RVing and have some more fun.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

Mocoondo
Explorer II
Explorer II
socal77 wrote:
My wife asked me to look into installing a flat screen TV in our 28A.

I'd love to hear from anyone who's done this.


Piece of cake. I've done several. Installed to the forward face of the cabinet over the dinette. A power outlet and cable connection already exists up there. Just a matter of bolting the mounting arm to the cabinet. We even did one where we installed some electronics in the actual cabinet...a DVD player and a Playstation for the kids.

socal77
Explorer II
Explorer II
My wife asked me to look into installing a flat screen TV in our 28A.

I'd love to hear from anyone who's done this.

jetmechtm
Explorer
Explorer
Hello everyone, I bought a 2007 24' Jamboree on a Chevy chassis from El Monte in Feb of 2015. I am retired and have put 6K miles on it. In fact I just returned from a 10 day trip from Atlanta up I-75 to Detroit with many stops along the way. I rarely return the same route so after a stop in Cleveland to see an old USAF buddy, I came back on I-77 to Charlotte to I-85 to Atlanta.
I was pleasantly surprised at the Ohio Turnpike rest areas. I spent a night at one, they are RV friendly with electric hook up, dump site and potable water. $20 fee.
I have only had one issue with my RV. The transmission went bad. The warranty took care of it. I had to pay $100 deductible. This happened 6 months after purchase and I have had no other issues. El Monte has been great. I have no regrets about my purchase and would do it again. I did install a backup camera, battery isolation switch, flat screen TV and RV specific GPS. Next long trip will either be to The Smithsonian or Mt Rushmore. Savannah and Pensacola next short ones. GO RVing!

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
Welcome to the Forum soisaucer and to the Former Rental Club you are #73
on the list
After a few trips c'mon back and tell us how everything went.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

soisaucer
Explorer
Explorer
We bought a 2013 Coachman Leprechaun 210QB this past weekend - a former El Monte rental. We are former pop-up campers and this is our first RV. We can't wait to take it out for a test run!

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
TheHallsGroup wrote:

Thank you. Ironically enough I called that location today and Omar is the local manager. The young lady that answered said that all the RVs they rent are for sale and that I can call him in the morning.

That sounds great! Please come back and tell us how it went.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

TheHallsGroup
Explorer
Explorer
IAMICHABOD wrote:
You can always try ***Link Removed*** in Orlando,they come with TVs and antennas and I know they would be more than happy to offer a awning if it doesn't already have one.

If you find one at another location that you like they will deduct the airfare from the price, you can call Mike Dwan,the National Sales Manager at El Monte RV and he will tell you all about it.
You Can call him @ 562 483 4949


Thank you. Ironically enough I called that location today and Omar is the local manager. The young lady that answered said that all the RVs they rent are for sale and that I can call him in the morning.

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
You can always try El Monte RV in Orlando,they come with TVs and antennas and I know they would be more than happy to offer a awning if it doesn't already have one.

If you find one at another location that you like they will deduct the airfare from the price, you can call Mike Dwan,the National Sales Manager at El Monte RV and he will tell you all about it.
You Can call him @ 562 483 4949
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

TheHallsGroup
Explorer
Explorer
This is going to sound crazy, I spent the entire day today going to dealers and ended up in Orlando at CA. I live in Tampa. Come to find out I went to high school with the sales reps wife. After its all said and done I am willing to buy a rental BUT I must have an antenna , TV and awning and all CA is willing to do is put an awning on.

What is the best way to add a TV and get some channels?

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
Welcome to the Forum bjones3211 and to the Former Rental Club your membership is duly noted, you are #72
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

cencerrita
Explorer II
Explorer II
Sorry forgot the other good thing with the 27G - it has a curved front with less wind resistance and we have been getting 10 mpg at 60 mph. The front makes the RV look a lot newer and a lot of people thought it was brand new last winter after buying it - it is 2010!
www.cencerrita.comNow living in Pembrokeshire, Wales, UK. See our web site for US travels and books www.cencerrita.com

cencerrita
Explorer II
Explorer II
RE: Buying a Rental Class C. How many of us out there? (Long)

Have you thought of the 27G instead of the 23 or 28A from Cruise America? Having rented a 28A first we are very pleased with the 27G and they often have a lot less mileage as they were not rented out so much (they did not do the 28A for a few years which was designed for a family and appear to have got it wrong as they stopped). It is slightly narrower about 1 foot and also only 29 ft long. Ideal for 2 people. We wanted a walk around bed hence the bigger size. The sink and toilet lay out is far better - toilet on the floor and you are not perched up in the air as the 28A and I think also the 23.Good size stowage locker also front right next to the door.
Added two solar panels and boondock for days no problem until the water runs low. Stowage space was very important for us as we live in Europe, so have to have everything with us all the time when in the US
We did not buy a awning either for it and have now decided that was a good move having seen people with problems in high winds and the sun in the "wrong place"
On the back we have a Rowdy SSR 150 scooter which has proven ideal for excursions when parked up, including climbing up mountains with 2 up, in the Chisos mountains at Big Bend.
Both the 28 and 27 have lots of spare stowage space below the front bed end and the top of the water tank. We have fitted a shoe cupboard there which works well.
You will find Cruise America not only have a plastic cover over the mattress, but we also found an inner plastic cover over the mattress! Both removed to stop sweating and Ikea bed slats fitted below for extra comfort:) Mattress found in perfect condition due to the covers.
Lots of room under the sink in the 27G as well as long as you remove the existing panels and redesign. we now have more storage and also a invertor fitted below with the solar controller there as well. You can also get weight forward by moving the air trunkings slightly under the seats to create space.

hope that helps and does not confuse with the extra model!
www.cencerrita.comNow living in Pembrokeshire, Wales, UK. See our web site for US travels and books www.cencerrita.com