Lippert TT Leveling System issues

We recently purchased a trailer with a Lippert TT Leveling system.

We have been running RV’s in one form or another for over 4 decades, all have had manual leveling systems. This is our first with an “automatic Leveling system”. Not something I would have ordered, but it was already installed.

Either one of two things, one, the abilities of this system are greatly exaggerated, or two, I’m not bright enough to operate it properly. At the time of the purchase walk through, we were shown to turn on the power, hit auto level, not move inside the trailer and it automatically leveled. Of course this was on a paved, level lot.

In the manual I had to download off the internet, under features it claims; “Fast, accurate automatic electric leveling”. Baloney! I had stronger language in mind but thought I’d keep it family friendly. Unless you are already on level ground, it doesn’t work. I could understand it not being up to the task if it were 6 or more inches off level. I park the trailer in the same place we parked our Class A motor home for 2 decades. To get the Motor Home level in this spot we had to raise which ever corner was to the SW, 2 inches . We attempt to level the trailer with the supposed automatic system and it does all kinds of strange things. And yes, we have done the complete factory reset of the system multiple times as well as the “zero point” set. On a couple of occasions, when the system finally stopped, the wheels on the right side of the trailer are totally off the ground and the forward/left jack pad is totally off the ground. Took the trailer back to the dealer and they checked it out to find that 2 of the jack plugs were switched at the control board. Thought, that should do it. Nope, same thing, different day.

The only way we can make this work is to let the system get all the jacks on the ground, turn off the system power, turn it on and go into manual mode in the menu. There, with the help of a bullet level, minor adjustments get us to level. Is this common with this system, or do I have a bad/damaged unit? Or is this about as good as these things work?

StirCrazy
Moderator
May 25, 2024
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JDsdogs wrote:
or two, I’m not bright enough to operate it properly.
I'm going to go with this one, Just kidding, there ids a learning curve, the biggest being to know how much blocking to put down, and where, also knowing how to set up the front jacks so you don't overstroke the system. on realy unlevel sites it will lift a tire off the ground if it has to to get level, no big deal these arnt you little corner stabalizing jacks. I have one site I go to thats so out of level if lifts my stair side 6" off the ground. but I don't bother to level side to side with blocks under the wheels before I hit the auto level button like some.
- JDsdogs
  Nomad II
  May 25, 2024
  "going to go with one". I think you meant two ,LOL 🤣
  I'm still going stick with my statement that Lipperts claims of are exaggerated. As well as my statement that if it won't level a condition of 6" or less, without having to add a bunch of blocks, it's not what I was led to believed I was buying. Like I stated in my original post, it levels just fine in the manual mode with very little adjustment, once all 4 jacks are solid on the ground. A manual system (electric, but not "automatic") is not that much slower if you are having to add bocks anyway. Certainly not worth the $$ you pay for it. All the same, thanks for your input StirCrazy.
  - StirCrazy
    Moderator
    May 26, 2024
    I don't know, I drop the front jacks where I want, unlook the truck, Put a couple pads under the rears (if needed) push auto level, go unload somthing fromt he truck and 60ish seconds later its perfectly level. as for price I don't know what we pay for it as it came on the 5th wheel and there was no price difference between one with it and one without it when I was looking..
CarnationSailor
Nomad
May 26, 2024
I have the Lippert auto-level and it works as advertised. If it is too far out of level (front-to-back or side-to-side) to operate, it displays a message to that effect on the control panel. (This usually only happens when I have just unhitched on a front-to-back downhill slope and the nose is too high. I lower the front jacks manually and then auto level will work.) I've never had a problem auto-leveling side-to-side, but sometimes, the wheels on one side do end up off the ground. Nothing to worry about. And sometimes I do have to put blocks under some of the jacks.
Given the prior swapped connections, I suspect a problem with the system. Take it back to your dealer and setup an out-of-level situation. (Blocks under wheels on one side.) Then if it fails, the dealer can see that there is a problem with the system. (When I bought my new 5th, there was a problem with the control panel, and it had to be replaced.)
- JDsdogs
  Nomad II
  May 27, 2024
  Sadly, my dealer is a ways away, 75 mi each way. Before warranty runs out, or if I have another warranty issue to deal with I will request an out of level setup so they can see what it's doing. Thanks for the suggestion.
valhalla360
Navigator
May 26, 2024
They make it overly complicated and this causes them to do weird things (and while not the end of the world, they aren't supposed to have tires of the ground).
I would prefer a simple system with an electronic level and 4 old school switches, so I could control front, back, left and right. It would still do it just as quick but with no brain to go haywire, it shouldn't do goofy things.
- StirCrazy
  Moderator
  May 27, 2024
  valhalla360 wrote:
  They make it overly complicated and this causes them to do weird things (and while not the end of the world, they aren't supposed to have tires of the ground).
  I would prefer a simple system with an electronic level and 4 old school switches, so I could control front, back, left and right. It would still do it just as quick but with no brain to go haywire, it shouldn't do goofy things.
  thats old school stabalizer jack thinking, if you are unlevel enough, side to side, you will have wheels off the ground with a frame leveling system, the only way to stop that is to use blocks under the tires to level it side to side first, or just not use sites that unlevel which I try to do. when you do a auto level it takes most of the weight off the tires anyways so the suspension isn't able to cause movment.
  the good thing is you don't have to have it, buy a rv with out it if thats what you like, or never push the auto level button just run it in manual mode.
  - valhalla360
    Navigator
    May 27, 2024
    Manufacturer disagrees....they say no wheels of the ground.
    Likewise stabilizers have never been recommended for leveling.
    As far as buying...unless you special order...these systems are pretty much standard on all but the smallest 5ers and manual mode requires scrolling thru multiple menus.
    It's technology for the sake of technology. A simple set of switches would be easier and more reliable.
ford_truck_guy
Nomad
Jun 01, 2024
First off, when you say " auto leveling" is it the ground control 4.0? 4 jacks or 6 jacks? electric or hydraulic? It shouldn't make a difference, but I am curious...
As far as a fix, suck it up and take it back to the dealer BEFORE the warranty expires and YOU are S.O.O.L. MY 6 point works flawless every time, EACH jack is rated for 8,000# and the "do not use to change tires" notes are from the lawyers to make sure their butt is covered.. maybe not so much on the 4 point... Heck, there is a site or 2 that after the auto level is done, my 1 side tires are off the ground due to the grade of the site.... It stayed like that for a week...
- JDsdogs
  Nomad II
  Jun 10, 2024
  Sorry for late reply.
  Mine is the TT system. 4 jacks and tongue jack control.

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