Better way to change rear fuel filter on 2016 Cummins?

[Ron3rd]

Does anyone know a better way to change the rear fuel filter (water separator) on a new generation Cummins without getting showered with diesel fuel?

I've done it twice now and always get a lot of fuel pouring out when I loosen the filter. I open the drain prior as required, but it seems a lot of fuel remains somewhere.

BTW, don't have a lift, can only do it on my back on the ground.

[FishOnOne]

ACZL wrote:
3 years ago I had fuel gel up on me unexpectedly. Local Ford dealer couldn't get me in, but advised me to go to their sister dealer (Lincoln) who was a couple miles from where I was at. They got me right in, diagnosed it and said $450.00 for everything! $150.00 for filters alone!!!!!! Asked them if they were made out of gold? Told them to button it up as I was NOT paying that kind of money, but did pay them for their time ($100.00). In a pinch, got a NAPA )WIX) filter for 100 bucks and then ordered from Dieselfilersonline for 50/each. Perhaps about a 20-30 minute job. Then of course Ford had to go and redesign the primary filter on the '17's and up, Grrrrrrrrr.........

The new primary filter takes a little longer to change but it should improve filtration which is always a good thing

[ACZL]

3 years ago I had fuel gel up on me unexpectedly. Local Ford dealer couldn't get me in, but advised me to go to their sister dealer (Lincoln) who was a couple miles from where I was at. They got me right in, diagnosed it and said $450.00 for everything! $150.00 for filters alone!!!!!! Asked them if they were made out of gold? Told them to button it up as I was NOT paying that kind of money, but did pay them for their time ($100.00). In a pinch, got a NAPA )WIX) filter for 100 bucks and then ordered from Dieselfilersonline for 50/each. Perhaps about a 20-30 minute job. Then of course Ford had to go and redesign the primary filter on the '17's and up, Grrrrrrrrr.........

[Me_Again]

Last week for the second time in my life I paid someone to do routine maintenance. Our 2004 Buick Rainier has 67K on the clock, and we paid to have the transmission, diffs, brake fluid flush, Anti freeze and belts done. They changed a half hour per item at $49 dollars each for the 5 items. They had to do the rear diff twice as they put limited slip additive in a G80 locker rear diff, which GM states does not and should not have the additive added.

I will be changing the RAMs fuel filters in the next couple days when the rain stops.

[cummins2014]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Greene728 wrote:
Get a section of 3/8 “IIRC” drain tubing. Attach this to the hose bib on the drain and open the drain with the tube in a jar, pail, whatever. Once it stops, loosen the filter a turn or two and break the seal/check valve and it will then begin completely draining. You are gonna get a little bit as it just is what it is. But, should not be a mess or more than just a couple ounces or so, if that. It’s really pretty simple this way and the bag has never been needed for me doing it this way. I actually bought enough hose and left them attached and tucked out of the way as someone else mentioned on front and back. Also, invest in a Fumoto drain valve for the oil plug. It’s simply wonderful Easy peasy.

GOOD advice! BUT not a fan of the Fumoto as it will leave more oil in the pan than just pulling the factory drain plug. Also don't like the idea of a prankster.

I just bought one for the 350 in my boat.

Good grief , pranksters , I can just see all of them running around looking for a fumoto drain valve to open. Now I have heard it all, and you were serious :@

I do agree on the oil left in there, I pull my fumoto, was very surprised at how much oil is left in there.

[Ron3rd]

SweetLou wrote:

SweetLou wrote:
I take mine to the dealer. Easy peasy, never splashed.

I did mine at Dave Smith in Kellogg ID for $99.00. I guess one needs to shop around a bit. That was the labor. Filters of course are what they are anywhere but still a great deal. Of course I had other work done while I was there, a recall as I remember.

Actually, I think $100 is a fair price for labor to replace both filters. They can still make a good profit. I know an experienced tech with a lift can easily replace both filters in under 30 minutes.

[Cummins12V98]

"Filters of course are what they are anywhere but still a great deal."

UH not really. Did you notice what they charged you for the filters? Same exact thing on AMAZON for around $80 for BOTH.

Agreed a fair price on labor.

[spoon059]

campigloo wrote:
But don’t you miss out on a “free” cup of coffee?

Ahhhh... that's the part I'm missing. I'm not a coffee drinker, otherwise that would be $350 well invested!

[SteveB]

I changed my own filters for the first time in May after getting a $400 quote from the dealer. I had already purchased the filters from Amazon but asked anyway. I protected my expensive asphalt driveway with a tarp and went to work. It was not difficult and only a few drips made it past the small pan i used over the driveshaft to catch the rear filter drainage. The front was real easy but I permanently extended the drain tube to behind the axle.
Next time i might try a large funnel for the rear filter but that will not be for quite a while.

[SweetLou]

SweetLou wrote:
I take mine to the dealer. Easy peasy, never splashed.

I did mine at Dave Smith in Kellogg ID for $99.00. I guess one needs to shop around a bit. That was the labor. Filters of course are what they are anywhere but still a great deal. Of course I had other work done while I was there, a recall as I remember.

[campigloo]

Ron3rd wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

IdaD wrote:
I figure the diesel is good sealant for the asphalt down by my shop.

Fairly certain you are joking, but you know that diesel destroys the asphalt... right? I put cardboard boxes down to catch and diesel that may spill. OP, the idea of putting a bag around it before removing is a good idea. I like paying myself $300-350 an hour and do the job myself, rather than paying the shop $300-350 for an hours worth of labor, plus drive time, plus down time while I wait, plus more drive time home.

Great minds think alike.

But don’t you miss out on a “free” cup of coffee?

[Ron3rd]

spoon059 wrote:

IdaD wrote:
I figure the diesel is good sealant for the asphalt down by my shop.

Fairly certain you are joking, but you know that diesel destroys the asphalt... right? I put cardboard boxes down to catch and diesel that may spill. OP, the idea of putting a bag around it before removing is a good idea. I like paying myself $300-350 an hour and do the job myself, rather than paying the shop $300-350 for an hours worth of labor, plus drive time, plus down time while I wait, plus more drive time home.

Great minds think alike.

[spoon059]

IdaD wrote:
I figure the diesel is good sealant for the asphalt down by my shop.

Fairly certain you are joking, but you know that diesel destroys the asphalt... right? I put cardboard boxes down to catch and diesel that may spill. OP, the idea of putting a bag around it before removing is a good idea. I like paying myself $300-350 an hour and do the job myself, rather than paying the shop $300-350 for an hours worth of labor, plus drive time, plus down time while I wait, plus more drive time home.

[IdaD]

I figure the diesel is good sealant for the asphalt down by my shop. No way would I pay somebody a bunch of money for a job that's so easy.

[Cummins12V98]

SweetLou wrote:
I take mine to the dealer. Easy peasy, never splashed.

Please tell us what the bill is for changing the two fuel filters?