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- RayChezExplorerThe three point system is a very poor set up. Who ever the engineer was that designed that should have gotten fired. If a person knows anything about setting up rigging on cranes will tell you that you always set up your four levelers to create a solid platform. The three point levelers was just to save money by eliminating one leveler. Most owners that had the three point leveling complained of rocking on the front part of the coaches IF the leveler was lowered a bit to much to where it would lift the wheel a bit off the ground in order to level the coach. With the four point levelers you never have that problem.
That is why in my opinion the Quadra levelers are so much better then the HWH. You can work all four together OR you can control each one individually.
I will usually bring the two in the front down until they touch the ground, then I bring the two on the back until they touch the ground. I look at my leveling dots and press the buttons accordingly to get the perfect platform. Once you have it leveled I put a little pressure on each leveler.
Forgot to mention that I do let the air out of the air bags before I start the procedure with the levelers. And then the slides go out.
Putting the slides out on an uneven RV parking spot will create stress on the slide twisting that is created by some of these parking areas.
And believe me I have seen some RV parks where the front end of some of these coaches is up in the air. Some are so bad that coaches that have the air leveling systems can not adjust to level the coach without putting boards under the tires. - bullydogs1ExplorerI have the 3 point system with my HR...and other than it being a bit of a bear to get under the front one for a leveling block or pad..has worked just fine as I follow the slides out first regimen....
- Years ago, the 4 jack hydraulic systems, EACH jack was individually controlled and that led to some motorhomes when the RV'er over lifted one front corner, the chassis would twist and either pop out the windshield or crack it. That led to 3 point leveling made by 2 makers
1. RVA Jacks systems which were exclusive to Monaco/HR motorhomes
2. Powergear
The 3 point system allows the front single middle mount jack to raise the front and not twist the front chassis frame to cause windshield problems
There is a modified 3 point system that actually uses 4 jacks, and the 2 front jacks are connected to the same hydraulic line. When lifting the 2 front jacks lift at the same rate because they are connected to 1 HYD line and neither front corner can lift higher than the other
Then years ago. HWH came out with Bi-Axis leveling which was all touch pad controlled and the JOYSTICK(NOT 4 lever) manual control systems. This meant that at any given time 2 jacks will be lifting instead on 1. The Bi-Axis was designed to also prevent torquing either front corner of the motorhome to stop windshield problems. Preference on which system is best is up to the purchaser. Doug - FIRE_UPExplorer
GlennLever wrote:
I also have the three point system. I'm told, and have follow this advise, to always put the front one down first and lift the coach a bit first before using the two rear ones to level side to side. What was said is if you do not do this you can pop a front windshield out.
GlennLever,
While this is a tad off subject, I'm wondering. You state you're following some sort of advice to "always" put the front one down first. My question:
What happens if you're at a campsite that's already high in the front?
You'd be making it even higher if you were to follow your own advice. Just wondering.
To the OP,
While we've never had one, I'd prefer to shy away from the three point system. Apparently it worked, FOR A WHILE. But, obviously something and someone, made an influence on the design of leveling systems and, that three point system was canned in favor of four point ones. I don't believe there's any manufacturers of M/Hs of any brand, make, model, style and more, that use any form of a three point system today. Could be but, I don't think so.
Scott - WayneLeeExplorerI had a 2007 Holiday Rambler, purchased new and just sold it, so we can downsize, but that's a different story.
It took me a while to get use to the 3 point leveling. Monaco (owned Holiday Rambler) was one of the first companies with the full width windshield and they found that a three point leveling system would not put the stress on the frame and pop the windshield.
I found that the 3 point system was very secure and felt good and always worked perfectly. Probably the weight of the coach helped (over 10 tons).
By the way, be sure you know, and follow, the proper order in setup - Monaco is different than any other manufacturer ... FIRST put the slides out, THEN level the coach. - GlennLeverExplorerI also have the three point system. I'm told, and have follow this advise, to always put the front one down first and lift the coach a bit first before using the two rear ones to level side to side. What was said is if you do not do this you can pop a front windshield out.
- sch911Explorer
mtrumpet wrote:
sch911 wrote:
Our 2009 HR Endeavour has a three point system. It works in conjuction with the 8 air bags to level the coach. After having several RV's with four point systems I'm not sold on the 3 point system yet.
That interesting. So, you have air leveling along with three point leveling? I assume that you have the Roadmaster chassis?
Yes the RR8R...
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