This isn't RV related, but people on here seem to have a lot of information. On our home phone lately, we have been getting a ton of calls trying to sell us home security, computer stuff to make our computer safer, begging for donations to everything under the sun. We put all of our phones on that no call list a couple of times over the last few years, and that seems to get no results. Has anyone had any luck with any source??Mike

Dump the landline and go with cellphone.

mike-uswest wrote: Has anyone had any luck with any source??Yes, caller id. Most of these calls are 800 numbers, or "hidden" ( I forget the word that appears on my phone). Just don't answer them. Nobody I know calls me from an 800 number. After a while they'll stop, or so it seems on my cell phone when ATT was calling me 10 times a day a few weeks ago.The days of answering with "hello" because you don't know who it is and you might miss an important call, are over.

Not much hope. The do not call list doesn't apply to non-profits. Most of these other guys see little enforcement and trivial penalties, so they ignore the list. Reputable companies try to follow the rules, but there are lots of others.

We use cell phones almost 100% of the time here. Our landline phone has the ringer disconnected and we only answer the phone when someone we know calls out to us over the answer machine.Have no idea any of the other calls even come in...Being doing this for the past five years now...Keeping the landline phone ensures that we probably won't be tracked down on cell phones...ALways have a PLAN B hehe...Roy Ken

There is a problem with the DO NOT CALL list, it worked for a bit but the 3rd class callers (My name for 'em) quickly figured out the flaw in the law.There is no agency that enforces it. Oh the FCC will keep a log of complaints, but there is no agency charged with ENFORCING the law.. When it gets bad enough the FCC may act... But Title 47 Section 227 of the US code (Look it up) states that YOU THE OFFENDED must take enforcement action by filing a suit against the caller... So they lie about who they are and where they area, they make it hard as possible to serve.. Still.. I will be filing against one in the very near future.We need to lobby our congress critters to add some genuine TEETH to that law.. Allow the government to act on behalf of the offended and fine the company 500 or better yet 5000 per illegal phone call,, Times thousands of calls a day.. Could do two things.1: Bankrupt the 3rd class calling business (This would be a very good thing)2: Dent the national debt (Also a good thing)

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rk911
Explorer
Jul 05, 2014
Duck wrote:
The problem with robo calls around here, if you do not answer within 4 or 5 rings you will get a call back from the same company in the future.
Don

and if you do answer you will get a call back from the same company in the future. they do eventually give up. we've been getting calls from something called 'Clothes For Charity'...sometimes 3 and 4 times per day. we never answer. it's been a week since the last call. maybe they've finally figured it out.
Duck
Explorer
Jul 05, 2014
The problem with robo calls around here, if you do not answer within 4 or 5 rings you will get a call back from the same company in the future.
Don
az99
Explorer
Jul 05, 2014
If you know what company is calling, contact your state Attorney General office. I was getting continuous calls from Palmco power from Brooklyn. I filed a complaint and within a few weeks got an apology from them and and no more calls.

Unfortunately in our area we have Windstream which does not have caller ID unless you go to some high $ package.
Tvov
Explorer II
Jul 05, 2014
Bill.Satellite wrote:
While not directly related to this topic, be very careful about any kind of lottery, sweepstake or drawing you might enter. I was reading the paperwork on the form you fill out at your local shopping mall to win that sparkling new car. By filling out the entry you agree to allow all telemarketing from any company even if you are on a DNC list.

That goes for almost anything... if you have basically ANY interaction with a business, that business is allowed to call your phone, and if you signed a paper with a lot of small print? ... probably somewhere in there it said the business could give your phone number to other businesses to call you.
Bill_Satellite
Explorer II
Jul 04, 2014
While not directly related to this topic, be very careful about any kind of lottery, sweepstake or drawing you might enter. I was reading the paperwork on the form you fill out at your local shopping mall to win that sparkling new car. By filling out the entry you agree to allow all telemarketing from any company even if you are on a DNC list.
Gdetrailer
Explorer III
Jul 04, 2014
camperpaul wrote:
SRT wrote:
wa8yxm wrote:
There is a problem with the DO NOT CALL list, it worked for a bit but the 3rd class callers (My name for 'em) quickly figured out the flaw in the law.

There is no agency that enforces it. Oh the FCC will keep a log of complaints, but there is no agency charged with ENFORCING the law.. When it gets bad enough the FCC may act...

But Title 47 Section 227 of the US code (Look it up) states that YOU THE OFFENDED must take enforcement action by filing a suit against the caller... So they lie about who they are and where they area, they make it hard as possible to serve.. Still.. I will be filing against one in the very near future.

We need to lobby our congress critters to add some genuine TEETH to that law.. Allow the government to act on behalf of the offended and fine the company 500 or better yet 5000 per illegal phone call,, Times thousands of calls a day.. Could do two things.

1: Bankrupt the 3rd class calling business (This would be a very good thing)
2: Dent the national debt (Also a good thing)

Yes, put more teeth in the DO NOT CALL list. Darn thing doesn't work any more as far as I'm concerned.

Steve,
The teeth are already there.

ALL TELEMARKETING CALLS to cell-phones are specifically prohibited by the TCPA (aka section 227 of the "Communications Act of 1934" aka "Title 47 USC")). Therefore there is no need for a "Cellphone DNC list".

The use of "ROBO-DIALERS" is also prohibited.

The agency charged with enforcement of these provisions is the US DOJ.

US DOJ does not have "jurisdiction OUTSIDE the US, pretty much all the calls ORIGINATE OUTSIDE the US, hence the reason why the Do Not Call list was a failure from the start..

US DOJ can only go after the scoff laws INSIDE the US.
2oldman
Explorer II
Jul 04, 2014
camperpaul wrote:
The agency charged with enforcement of these provisions is the US DOJ.
And I'm sure it's a top priority of enforcment...not.

The best way to deal with these calls is to ignore them.
camperpaul
Explorer
Jul 04, 2014
SRT wrote:
wa8yxm wrote:
There is a problem with the DO NOT CALL list, it worked for a bit but the 3rd class callers (My name for 'em) quickly figured out the flaw in the law.

There is no agency that enforces it. Oh the FCC will keep a log of complaints, but there is no agency charged with ENFORCING the law.. When it gets bad enough the FCC may act...

But Title 47 Section 227 of the US code (Look it up) states that YOU THE OFFENDED must take enforcement action by filing a suit against the caller... So they lie about who they are and where they area, they make it hard as possible to serve.. Still.. I will be filing against one in the very near future.

We need to lobby our congress critters to add some genuine TEETH to that law.. Allow the government to act on behalf of the offended and fine the company 500 or better yet 5000 per illegal phone call,, Times thousands of calls a day.. Could do two things.

1: Bankrupt the 3rd class calling business (This would be a very good thing)
2: Dent the national debt (Also a good thing)

Yes, put more teeth in the DO NOT CALL list. Darn thing doesn't work any more as far as I'm concerned.

Steve,
The teeth are already there.

ALL TELEMARKETING CALLS to cell-phones are specifically prohibited by the TCPA (aka section 227 of the "Communications Act of 1934" aka "Title 47 USC")). Therefore there is no need for a "Cellphone DNC list".

The use of "ROBO-DIALERS" is also prohibited.

The agency charged with enforcement of these provisions is the US DOJ.
SRT
Explorer
Jul 04, 2014
wa8yxm wrote:
There is a problem with the DO NOT CALL list, it worked for a bit but the 3rd class callers (My name for 'em) quickly figured out the flaw in the law.

There is no agency that enforces it. Oh the FCC will keep a log of complaints, but there is no agency charged with ENFORCING the law.. When it gets bad enough the FCC may act...

But Title 47 Section 227 of the US code (Look it up) states that YOU THE OFFENDED must take enforcement action by filing a suit against the caller... So they lie about who they are and where they area, they make it hard as possible to serve.. Still.. I will be filing against one in the very near future.

We need to lobby our congress critters to add some genuine TEETH to that law.. Allow the government to act on behalf of the offended and fine the company 500 or better yet 5000 per illegal phone call,, Times thousands of calls a day.. Could do two things.

1: Bankrupt the 3rd class calling business (This would be a very good thing)
2: Dent the national debt (Also a good thing)

Yes, put more teeth in the DO NOT CALL list. Darn thing doesn't work any more as far as I'm concerned.
mike-uswest
Explorer II
Jul 04, 2014
I guess these guys are just like bad weather, they are going to happen. You just have to learn to ignore them. Thanks.

Mike

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