Trouble with Windows 10

You'd like it less if you knew how much personal information it was gathering about you. Good luck.

TucsonJim wrote:

mr. ed wrote:

TucsonJim wrote:
We solved this with our brand new laptop. It was a fairly easy fix. Give me a few minutes and I'll give you step by step instructions. There are two programs provided by windows that are causing the problem. You can delete them with no ill effects. Don't go back to 8.1. I'll get back with you in a few minutes.

Jim

What was the other problem program?

The two startup apps that were causing me problems were

"Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support"
"Windows Error Reporting Service"

Jim

Disabling error reporting service was enough for me to fix the problem. Thus far, I'm liking W10 and still have about 3 weeks to decide if I want to revert back to W8.1, which I also liked.

bwanshoom wrote:
During the upgrade they reset your previously selected defaults to MS programs. For example, if you set Firefox as your default browser in Win 8 the upgrade changed it to Microsoft Edge. It does give you the option to leave the defaults the way they were, but if you don't explicitly take this step then the defaults are changed. And since many people won't read things very carefully their defaults get changed. It didn't have to be this way, that's just how they decided to do it.

Ok, I see your point now. I think some defaults were changed on my upgrade but I just changed them back and didn't give it a 2nd thought.

They are giving you the upgrade for free and want you to try their new Edge browser so, to me, it seems reasonable for them to reset your default browser. There may be other similar examples. I would only call it proprietary if you couldn't change the defaults to what you wanted.

strollin wrote:

D.E.Bishop wrote:
... both 8 and 10 are almost proprietary, everything defaults to MS programs or sponsored programs. Learning how to use 10 is going to be a long slow process for me. ...

It's true that things default to MS programs but how else would they do it? If you try to open a picture or a video, would you prefer it to not open at all or default to opening with an MS program?

I run lots of 3rd party programs on my Win 8.1 and Win 10 (Win 7 too) computers and don't necessarily depend on the ones that MS provides. Windows has always allowed you to specify what programs open which file types.

During the upgrade they reset your previously selected defaults to MS programs. For example, if you set Firefox as your default browser in Win 8 the upgrade changed it to Microsoft Edge. It does give you the option to leave the defaults the way they were, but if you don't explicitly take this step then the defaults are changed. And since many people won't read things very carefully their defaults get changed. It didn't have to be this way, that's just how they decided to do it.

D.E.Bishop wrote:
... both 8 and 10 are almost proprietary, everything defaults to MS programs or sponsored programs. Learning how to use 10 is going to be a long slow process for me. ...

It's true that things default to MS programs but how else would they do it? If you try to open a picture or a video, would you prefer it to not open at all or default to opening with an MS program?

I run lots of 3rd party programs on my Win 8.1 and Win 10 (Win 7 too) computers and don't necessarily depend on the ones that MS provides. Windows has always allowed you to specify what programs open which file types.

sherlock62 wrote:

LynnandCarol wrote:
We love Win-10! When you convert there is a recovery option to return to Win-8 that is available for 30 days. We have had no problems and it is much better than Win-8. FYI...AVG will not work with 10 yet!

AVG 2015 Free, works just fine on my 3 PC's running Windows 10.

You are correct as I was ref. an older e-mail! Additionally, from what I have read so far! Win-10 will be it for many years to come with allot of future updates instead of a totally new OS.

To me WIN8.1 and WIN10 are basically the same, both work for me but the download time was excessive for 10 IMHO. The only real problem I have is that my programs with the exception of Office are not MS based programs and both 8 and 10 are almost proprietary, everything defaults to MS programs or sponsored programs. Learning how to use 10 is going to be a long slow process for me. I hate just pushing buttons to see what happens and that is what you end up doing as there isn't any information on using other programs or screens, even the Getting Started is geared toward using MS programs and doesn't address the fact that we may not like what we see on the windows.

Bottom line, it's working fine for me and eventually I'll hate it when MS decides to issue a new and improved OS and I have to give up 10.

For those using Norton......I just found out that Norton would not scan after installing win10. Went to the Norton help and downloaded a download and install and now it's all good.

mr. ed wrote:

TucsonJim wrote:
We solved this with our brand new laptop. It was a fairly easy fix. Give me a few minutes and I'll give you step by step instructions. There are two programs provided by windows that are causing the problem. You can delete them with no ill effects. Don't go back to 8.1. I'll get back with you in a few minutes.

Jim

What was the other problem program?

The two startup apps that were causing me problems were

"Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support"
"Windows Error Reporting Service"

Jim

LynnandCarol wrote:
We love Win-10! When you convert there is a recovery option to return to Win-8 that is available for 30 days. We have had no problems and it is much better than Win-8. FYI...AVG will not work with 10 yet!

AVG 2015 Free, works just fine on my 3 PC's running Windows 10.