Diesel fuel additive ---- WOW !

Caveman Charlie wrote:

06Fargo wrote:
At the refinery I hauled fuel from Diesel-50; Heating oil-50; Kerosene; Jet A - was all loaded from the same spout as it is the same product.

Boy I'm sure glad you aren't delivering fuel to my area.

#1 and #2 Diesel and #1 and #2 Heating oil are very similar. You can put diesel fuel in your home tank in a pinch to keep your furnace going. But, in my area you can't put heating oil in your diesel powered vehicle. I mean you can but, it's a dirtier fuel and it will plug up your filters quicker and you don't want to run the risk of a plugged injector.

Kerosene is different all together. I don't know what Jet A is.

You are pretty close. Heating oil is #1 fuel, furnace oil is #2 fuel, and Diesel was a better refined, slightly higher cetane fuel. I haven't seen true Diesel fuel for years, it was more expensive.

I hauled the stuff for 17 years, and Caveman Charlie is correct. Every refinery or pipeline terminal I hauled the stuff out of, #1 fuel, kerosene, and Jet A came out of the same pipe. The only difference was the additives.

I also prefer to do my own blending of fuel in the winter. I know what works for my engines. I would also never use gasoline in fuel to prevent gelling.

dave17352 wrote:

Caveman Charlie wrote:

eHoefler wrote:

Caveman Charlie wrote:

JaxDad wrote:
Mine runs on Jet A exclusively, has since it was new. No smell, no smoke or soot, lights instantly and really throws off heat.

It's also waaaay cheaper than kerosene.

Jet A ??? What is Jet A ? Airplane jet fuel? If so where can you purchase something like that? Thanks.

In years past, it was common practice to add gasoline to diesel in the winter months as a anti-gel. 5 gallons of gas to 200-300 gallons of diesel was the average mix.

I'll ask. I've never heard of this.

I have heard of this back in the old days. I would say don't dare do it on the new diesel trucks as it would probably ruin the entire fuel system, from what I have read. With a price tag of about 10k +

Agree on that. The new Tier 3 (I think it's 3) diesels and their computers are way sensitive to things. We have several on them on the farm. They even take there own special oil. As little as a quart of the wrong oil in them will goof them up royally. It's gotten to be a challenge and a pain to make sure you are using the right lubricants in the right places on the right tractors.

The new hydraulic fluid is different to and we have to be somewhat careful of that.

The old days of 80W 90 for universal gear lube are over too. Different equipment requires different lube in there axels and gear boxes these days too.

I don't take chances on fuel or lubricants on this new stuff. I look up what it calls for and I use that. It's gotten so complicated we sometimes have to call the dealer to make sure we are using the right fuel or lubricant for the right equipment. Got bunches of different jugs setting around the farm these days.

We even have one Case IH tractor that takes special brake fluid. We had to have it sent from England when we had a brake fluid leak and after we fixed the leak we found no one in the US had the special fluid. It was a old David Brown number and it was a mineral oil.

06Fargo wrote:
At the refinery I hauled fuel from Diesel-50; Heating oil-50; Kerosene; Jet A - was all loaded from the same spout as it is the same product.

Boy I'm sure glad you aren't delivering fuel to my area.

#1 and #2 Diesel and #1 and #2 Heating oil are very similar. You can put diesel fuel in your home tank in a pinch to keep your furnace going. But, in my area you can't put heating oil in your diesel powered vehicle. I mean you can but, it's a dirtier fuel and it will plug up your filters quicker and you don't want to run the risk of a plugged injector.

Kerosene is different all together. I don't know what Jet A is.

tplife wrote:

kennethwooster wrote:
I would definitely not add Gasoline. However: a good fuel additive like Stanodyne and PS, with cleaners and cetane rating added with each tank would really add to the life of any diesel heaters. Course if it helps your heater, how much more would it help your diesel engine.

The most common cetane booster is 2-Ethylhexyl Nitrate (2-EHN). Amsoil cetane boost is almost 100% pure 2-EHN!

I googled the MSDS for that stuff. It is one SCARY poisonous chemical!
C8H17NO3
No, thanks, I won't put it in my fuel tank!
Oh, wait, I no longer have a diesel.
Nevermind.

We add cetane booster to our smart cars every fill up. Makes a noticeable difference but not a huge difference. They run quieter and as you noticed it seems to eliminate the diesel smell. Many folks with european diesels add a little cetane booster to their tank. VW's Mercedes, etc. European diesel is a little different.

kennethwooster wrote:
I would definitely not add Gasoline. However: a good fuel additive like Stanodyne and PS, with cleaners and cetane rating added with each tank would really add to the life of any diesel heaters. Course if it helps your heater, how much more would it help your diesel engine.

The most common cetane booster is 2-Ethylhexyl Nitrate (2-EHN). Amsoil cetane boost is almost 100% pure 2-EHN!

At the refinery I hauled fuel from Diesel-50; Heating oil-50; Kerosene; Jet A - was all loaded from the same spout as it is the same product.

Caveman Charlie wrote:

eHoefler wrote:
I add 4 ounces of gasoline to 1 gallon of diesel for my heater. Burns much cleaner and fires instantly every time.

I'm no expert but, I think this sounds like a terrible idea. Again, I really don't know and I would ask the manufacture of the heater for there recommendation. Besides the fire hazard gasoline is a very dry fuel that gives no lubrication .

I agree it sounds scary but in the old days MB diesel cars of added a small amount of gas to winterize the diesel I have read. There was a ratio but I do not remember it.

I would definitely not add Gasoline. However: a good fuel additive like Stanodyne and PS, with cleaners and cetane rating added with each tank would really add to the life of any diesel heaters. Course if it helps your heater, how much more would it help your diesel engine.

some "octane boosters" do, however, contain naptha and/or napthalene.
Search for the MSDS of your favorite and find out exactly what you are putting in your fuel tank!
Diesel fuel has no "octane rating", it has a "cetane rating".
google it.
then, find the MSDS of your favorite additive.