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reddwar
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Jun 20, 2014

fan will not start on coleman AC/HP 48014-876

Have a Coleman AC/HP 48014-876. The fan will not start it will just hum. Do I need to replace the fan motor, or the Start Device Pkg. or both. Which one goes out most of the time or while I am up there just replace both?

I just checked & the start device pkg. is just over $20 guess I will just replace both.

red

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  • j-d's avatar
    j-d
    Explorer II
    What's happened on this? I hate to ask somebody to do work or spend even a few dollars on something like a capacitor and not see closure.
    I've been wondering... You have a monitoring system that's giving you satisfactory Voltage readings on L1 and L2. But showing 23A with A/C on L2... Is that the A/C that has the FAN problem? When you're up there and seeing the slow fan, is the compressor running? You can feel it fibrate, hear it hum, and feel temperatures in the lines. Small tubing from compressor should be warm and the larger tubing should be cool.
    Are the two A/C units different BTU sizes? I'm curious about the differences in the two amperages.
    Before I go saying the fan motor's bad I'd like to be sure the rest of the system is OK and the logic narrows to the fan motor.
  • As I said earlier have a surge protector & the read out is on the wall. It says L2 119 2A, with the AC not running so turned AC on timed it with surge protector & it said L2 115 23A, with the bed room AC running it says L1 113 15A. Turn bedroom AC off 118 5A surge protector also says 60H & 0 E

    We have 120 volts on both lines with 0 amps with nothing running. The wiring is new and the surge protector says the wiring is right {0 E}, last year AC worked great.

    red
  • j-d's avatar
    j-d
    Explorer II
    Fifty-Amp Coach? That description sounds like a 240-volt home A/C trying to run with one "leg" of the 240 disconnected. But in nearly every case "50A" is two 120VAC legs, each serving different parts of the coach. What are you plugged into? Is everything else working? Can you measure voltage going into the A/C unit? You'd want to find the Wiring Diagram and check voltage at the Input, not some place like a Capacitor.
    Just the FAN not spooling up would lead me to think we guessed wrong and replaced capacitor when the motor itself was bad. But the compressor not coming up also seems like too much of a coincidence to not be a power problem.
  • OK replaced the capacitor there were only two wires on it. The fan turns but not real fast and wife did not feel any air in the rig. Also did not hear the compressor kick in so don't thank it came on. So turned it off then tried to turn it on again, nothing would not come back on. Now on roof all I could hear was the fan down in rig, well read on.

    Down in the rig after shower turned it on & can hear the fan is turning but not so that you could feel any air. Now it had a wal wal wal sound sounds like the compressor it trying to start but can't.

    red
  • j-d's avatar
    j-d
    Explorer II
    Which Capacitor Terminal(s)? Does not matter so long as one wire to the Fan Motor is on one of the four-pin sets of capacitor contacts and the other Fan Motor wire is on the other. Just don't disturb the other three or four wires leading to the Fan Motor. You're working with only the Capacitor.
  • When we picked up our 5er had a surge protector added. I can see read out & it says L1 114 10A, L2 120 0A. Have left several parks as elect was not right.

    Ok why I am back on got the 7.5mfd 370vca Capacitor there are 2 sets of 4 prong pins on it & it says nothing so I "AssUMe not you but me" it does not matter how it is plugged in? So going up now
  • Seen lots of these motors with burned windings. Would recommend you take a peek. Low voltage starting is the culprit. About five to one ratio, burned fan motor versus failed compressor motor. Good luck. Hope you can get away with just a run cap. I rigged up 110 uf caps setup on the power source for the fan. End of voltage startup problems.
  • j-d's avatar
    j-d
    Explorer II
    Just make sure the motor will spin! That's Step One. When ours got stuck, I went up to the roof with the Zoom Spout "Turbine Oil" I carry on board, positive I'd get it going. Which I did, but a few hours later it was stuck again. So when we got home I dismantled the motor, cleaned and oiled the bearings again. STILL stuck. I don't think I've ever not been able to salvage a sleeve bearing motor by doing that. Till that one!
    Remember, that 7.5@370 is a generic spec. Any cap matching those numbers will do.
  • Thanks a lot I will pick up the {#13. 1499-5461 Fan Capacitor (7.5 Mfd/370V) PER AIRXCEL REPAIR PARTS LIST 480X4-87X SERIES tomorrow. Also will do tune up clean up.

    thanks again
    red
  • j-d's avatar
    j-d
    Explorer II
    Congratulations on including a MODEL NUMBER! Takes away so much guessing.
    The motor looks like one I just bought on Amazon for $100.. There is NO start device on the Fan, only on the Compressor. Your FAN uses a 7.5-mfd Run Capacitor rated at 370VAC (440VAC is also OK). That part should cost $15 or less. If you don't have a meter that can test capacitors, you stand a good chance of getting it running with a new 7.5 cap. When you get in there, look at the cap. If it looks swollen, or leaking, you'll know it's bad. But sometimes a bad cap looks OK.
    OH! does your Fan Motor SPIN freely with the power off? Ours did NOT. The Motor Windings were OK but the Bearings kept gumming up. Even after several cleanings (which included completely dismantling the motor) it would only run a day then bind up with gook in the outdoor bearing.
    If it DOES spin freely, get it spinning in the correct direction. That direction causes the Outdoor Fan to blow air out of the unit through the condenser coil. Spin it good and have somebody turn the power on. If it runs, chances are good a cap will fix it.
    While you're up there and in there, give it a Tune-Up Clean-Up!

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