Gray_Fox
Mar 20, 2015Explorer
2013 Ford Diesel
Is the 2013 Ford Diesel a good engine, I need it to pull my 36' 5th /w. Looking to move up. How about the 2015 are they any better. Thanks for any help.
blofgren wrote:
The risk of the CP4 high pressure fuel pump self destructing and ruining the entire fuel system to the tune of a $12-$15k repair was enough to steer me clear of them. I plan on keeping my truck well past the warranty period so it just simply was not a risk I was about to take. Interestingly enough I have not seen any documentation as to the changes in the "improved" high pressure fuel pump for 2015 which makes me think a couple of things:
1. Ford knew there was a problem with the pump in the 2011-2014 MY trucks and doesn't want to say so
And/or:
2. There aren't any significant changes to it and the risk of premature failure is still there.
In any case, too much secrecy for me.
I bought a new truck last year (in my signature) and am very pleased. And this is coming from 3 Ford pickups over the last 20 years, including both a 7.3L and 6.0L diesel.
Turtle n Peeps wrote:we all know the majority did have problems with the 5.7 Olds diesel.
Really Troy? Care to post up a link to that data? You know, that one that shows over 50% had problems.It was the diesel engine that put one big nasty stain on the diesel engine reputation in the US and was so bad that it still has left it's nasty mark with some avoiding GM diesel engines because of it.
100% correct. But most of the problems were caused by people turning up the pump much like the 6.0 problems that people put tuners on. :B
They were a great engine. How do I know? because I own several and never had any problems with them. :BI remember hearing that the techs reporting that these engine would literally throw a rod just by the tech reving the engine during diagnostics.
I've worked on diesels for a long time and I can't think of a test where you have to rev a diesel so hard it will kick a rod. You're going to have to fill me in on that one?
And yes the vast majority (statistically speaking) is a good indicator of a engines reliability, durability, and performance.
I would say 9 out of 10 engines that are good is a vast majority. I still would not even consider buying a truck with such a rate.
Filter out the outliars from internet detractors like yourself, tuners/neglect
I'm not a detractor; I'm a realist. I call it like it is; good or bad. Ex: 7.3 Powerstroke GREAT engine. LBZ, GREAT engine. Ford V10, GREAT engine. 5.9 Cummins 04 on up, GREAT engine. Cummins 12V, GREAT engine.
The 6.0 JUNK. The 6.4 EXPENSIVE JUNK. The 5.7, JUNK. The 6.7 Powerstroke, a well designed engine with a so, so rep and a handful of fairly common problems that can get expensive.
And you can stop with the tuners and neglect. Ford or anybody else for that matter does not warrantee neglect or tuners. And Ford knew since the 6.4 came out when a tuner was used. A monkey could see it in the software. Anytime an engines blows up the download goes to FMC.and I believe Ford as an outstanding engine/drivetrain that is second to none at this point in time.
That's fine. But you need to tell all the mags that test these trucks they are all wrong because the last test I saw the D-Max beat the Powerstroke up the hill in the towing test and best it in the fuel mileage test. Maybe you have different standards? :B
we all know the majority did have problems with the 5.7 Olds diesel.
It was the diesel engine that put one big nasty stain on the diesel engine reputation in the US and was so bad that it still has left it's nasty mark with some avoiding GM diesel engines because of it.
I remember hearing that the techs reporting that these engine would literally throw a rod just by the tech reving the engine during diagnostics.
And yes the vast majority (statistically speaking) is a good indicator of a engines reliability, durability, and performance.
Filter out the outliars from internet detractors like yourself, tuners/neglect
and I believe Ford as an outstanding engine/drivetrain that is second to none at this point in time.
dreeder wrote:
I do not like the Ford HD's but unless money were no object I wouldn't keep any of the newer diesels out of warranty. I will say that after experiencing all of the latest trucks from the big three and warranty issues to go with them, Ford is the biggest pain in the rear to get warranty work approved and in some cases, like Ricatic's, just flat out denied.
Turtle n Peeps wrote:And the vast majority who have them have nothing but praise for the 6.7.
Going with this logic I'm sure the vast majority had no problems with their 5.7 Olds diesels. Must be a great engine if a majority has no problems with it. :S